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Hello everybody, first time post from Stephen.

I'm looking for some basic info on the different types of turbos fitted to the 9000.
What are LPT, ECO, etc. I don't do high mileages and performance is more important to me than economy. I am looking to replace a 1990 9000S with a slightly newer model with turbo, any advice or pointers would be great. Cheers.
 

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Welcome to Saabscene Stephen!

2.0 LPT/ECO..............150BHP
2.3 LPT/ECO..............170BHP
2.0 FPT..................175BHP
2.0 Carlsson (cat).......185BHP
2.0 Carlsson (non cat)...195BHP
2.3 FPT..................200BHP
2.3 Carlsson (cat).......220BHP
2.3 Aero.................225BHP

Not entirely sure on the power figures for 2.0 Carlssons and 2.0 FPT, but I would advise to go for a Full Pressure Turbo, and if you want performance, the 2.3FPT or higher.

You will definately notice the difference between your 9000S and a 2.0LPT (I used to have a 9000XS 2.0 and a CS 9000 2.0 LPT) - though I'd go for either the 2.3 Carlsson or Aero (I did get a 2.3 Carlsson! )

I have heard people saying they were suprised how much difference there was between the 200BHP 2.3 and the 2.3 Carlssons/Aeros.

The Aero will give a better MPG than the Carlsson. However, Aero's start at about £4k, and 2.3 Carlssons are about £1.5k - £2.5k.

Good luck in your search!

Kevin Mc
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1991 9000 Carlsson 2.3T
 

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Forgot to say - LPT = Light Pressure Turbo, and ECO = Ecopower. Don't know the difference, except that the ECO engines were later. Think the power output is the same. (Having said that brand new 9-5 Aero's have "ECO" imprinted on the engine!).

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It's down to the age really - all the old shape 9000 Turbo's (up to 1991/1992) will be Full Pressure Turbo's.

LPT came in with the CS range on the 2.0.

All CS's with the exception of the CS Aero and CS Carlsson, were LPT's (either 2.0 or 2.3). Nearly forgot, the very late 9000 Anniversary's (though you're talking 1996 ish) had 225BHP (as per the Aero).

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong!

If you want the performance, it has to be the Full Pressure Turbo.

Kevin Mc
 

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What confuses me with all these variations is the engine underneath them.. my 9000 anniversary 2.0 eco has a B204 engine in it.

According to my Haynes manual there are 3 B204 engines:
204i (straight injection) giving 130 bhp
204s (turbocharged) giving 150 bhp
204l (turbocharged/intercooled) giving 185 bhp

All three engines have different compression ratios (10:1, 8.8:1 and 9.2:1 respectively).

The B204 engine is the 1985cc engine. I assume the s variant is the ecopower...so can a FPT be put on the Ecopower engine?
 

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Ecopower can be FPT, the 93 Aero's are..
2.0's came in (covering 202 and 204 engines):
128 c900 inj cat,
130 9000 inj cat, ng lpt
133 c900 inj,
135 9000 inj,
145 c900 lpt,
150 9000 lpt, ng lpt,
160 c900 ftp cat,
165 9000 lpt cat?,
175 c900 ftp cat and non cat,
185 c900 non cat, ng ftpcat,
192 9-5 2.0 ftp conversion,
195 9000 ftp cat,
204 9000 ftp

what a versatile engine... just think how big the list would be if you included the 201 (100, 108, 118, 145, 150, 155)

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No if's no but's buy an aero if you can stretch to it. They are a great car.Not sure what they do better than a carlsson as my last one was a 2.3 cse non turbo auto, but my 'upgrade' is truly astounding. Never knew 75bhp could make so much difference!
Ant
 
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