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Turd's 9-3 Aero TTiD Project OEM+ SAAB NO MORE!

Hello all, so I've decided to knock up a progress thread of my car, all ready named "Baarb" haha

Its a 58 Plate Aero TTiD Facelift with 82k on the clock and a 6 speed manual.

So the idea of the car is to give it a really good tidy up, keep it clean and add some additions that will make it a more enjoyable and keep it looking nice and orginal. I plan on keeping her for quiet some time so the progress will be nice and steady :thumbsup:

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Only spotted recently it has a Samco Sport Hose! An intercooler pipe I think?

So currently plans are

1. Detail the whole car
2. Refurbish Gear Knob
3. Sport Pedals
4. Custom Mats (DONE)
5. Paint Brake Calipers
6. BSR Panel Filter
7. Black Saab Badges All Round
8. Refurbish The Wheels Black

This should keep me quiet for a few weeks/months have some much bigger plans. :thumbsup:
 

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Looks nice! Personally I wouldn't go for black alloys, too much on a black car but each to their own. Instead I'd spend the money on a rear tint instead (if not already done).

Refurb the gear knob is something I did 2 years ago, mine was scratched to hell and a new one really freshened it up. Here's the one I bought, still in stock - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-SAAB-9-3-03-12-MANUAL-GEAR-KNOB-COVER-5-SPEED-SILVER-NEW-55566206-/221397911414?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&fits=Car+Make:Saab|Model:9-3&hash=item338c580776 Expensive for what it is, but look at the life cost and it makes such a big difference. Dead easy to replace as well.

Sports pedals need drilling as well - royal PITA. I had the hirsch ones, and sold them a year on as they were rubbish and expensive. Got my money back thank god.

If it were me - rear tints, gear knob and a hirsch rear diffuser :thumbsup:
 

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Looks nice! Personally I wouldn't go for black alloys, too much on a black car but each to their own. Instead I'd spend the money on a rear tint instead (if not already done).

Refurb the gear knob is something I did 2 years ago, mine was scratched to hell and a new one really freshened it up. Here's the one I bought, still in stock - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-SAAB-9-3-03-12-MANUAL-GEAR-KNOB-COVER-5-SPEED-SILVER-NEW-55566206-/221397911414?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&fits=Car+Make%3ASaab%7CModel%3A9-3&hash=item338c580776 Expensive for what it is, but look at the life cost and it makes such a big difference. Dead easy to replace as well.

Sports pedals need drilling as well - royal PITA. I had the hirsch ones, and sold them a year on as they were rubbish and expensive. Got my money back thank god.

If it were me - rear tints, gear knob and a hirsch rear diffuser :thumbsup:
Im going to try and find some wheels for the Saab I've seen a 9-3 with some BBS wheels and it looked superb. The ones on it at present I will just refurb them gunmetal or black just for winter months.

Thanks for the link Virt, I will just refurb it myself its not to hard a job. Pop off the top, sand it down, paint and laquer. Plus gives me something to do :)

I'll pass on the window tint, im not a massive fan of rear tints unless it is out of the factory and its proper privacy glass. Plus if anything I think black windows on a black car look a bit OTT more so than black wheels ona black car haha.

Sport pedals dont require drilling. Later model GM Sport Pedals are a strait forward fit. Simply pull off the old rubber pedals from the base metal and slip on the new ones. There is a few variations you just need to make sure you get the wider clutch and brake pedal and the slim 3 stud accelerator pedal. Plus the Hirsch pedals as nice as they are I cant be arsed to drill them and spend £££'s on lol :thumbsup:
 

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Mr funky that's one hella machine , as to the colour of the wheels I would go anticite ( mid grey ) , I made the schoolboy error of changing the colour of mine to black :confused:I retfurbed 1 and a half of my ally's then decided it was too much black , now all I do is not wash my alloys so I get that grey break dust colour and that suites me down to a tee .
Keep us up to speed on your mods ,
 

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Mr funky that's one hella machine , as to the colour of the wheels I would go anticite ( mid grey ) , I made the schoolboy error of changing the colour of mine to black :confused:I retfurbed 1 and a half of my ally's then decided it was too much black , now all I do is not wash my alloys so I get that grey break dust colour and that suites me down to a tee .
Keep us up to speed on your mods ,
Your a gentlemen Liz-T :thumbsup: Its so very diffrent to anything ive ever owned before and to be fair I dont really race around I perfer taking it steady and its always nice to know you have the power on tap to shame most cars if need be. Although I just like pootling along with the heated seats on chilling to some podcasts.

If im honest ive never owned a car and done the full black on black everything. But I know what you mean it can look a bit s*** so I may mock up a few photo shops to see what it could look like.

Although am leaning towards a style of wheel that looks like:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BBS-CH-Challenge-8-5Jx18-brilliantsilber-5x110-et35-BBS-CH012-Opel-Saab-/261446339697?pt=Auto_Felgen&hash=item3cdf6a8c71

I would try and get a set of replica's and throw on some saab centre caps. The roads around here are terrible and dont like the idea of banging up over a grands worth of metal. Or maybe a set of Rota alloys ive had a few sets and they have been brillant!
 

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Well a quick update, ive ordered a few goodies and decided that with the sun out and the sky blue i'd get a cup of tea put my headphones on and give the girl her first claying down. And just as I has finished everything bar the roof the sun and blue sky vanished instantly and yep....you guessed it, it started to f***** rain..... O the joys of the british weather. :crazy:

So pictures ftw..



I highly recommend using demon shine as the detailer and lube, its much much cheaper than a "quick detailer" and the paint always look much better. Meguiars detailing clay used as well as yorkshire tea bags for the brew :thumbsup:



Noticed this fella stuck in the light so his going to have to come out. I took a fair few spiders and fly's out of the drivers side....Not sure how they get in......lol
 

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Sadly the pictures hide a fair few bodywork issues, a few little dings. Including dings on the passengers side roof. The car came with a set of Saab Roof Racks, which I can only imagine the past owner fitted.........Not very well from the look of the roof. So im going to get the dings and the roof corrected.

The rear bumper, bonnet could do with a respray. And there is a few scratches kicking about on the doors. Again these really need correcting.

However it isnt to bad at all. Its a lovely shade of black, very reflective and metallic. I think once its all corrected and a few addions added and waxed up it should look smashing!

I'm going to use some meguiars gold class wax. But Im a big fan of dodo wax purple haze which does a great job so I may get a pot.

Chrome tips have also been cleaned it took the best part of an hour and sadly the drivers side has corroded so badly its pitted the chrome plating. I can only imagine that is the favoured side for exhuast gasses as the passengers side has come up very nicely and has minimal pitting.
 

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Mr ................FUNKY ( can't call you turd that's rude :eek:) that car is looking dam mighty fine thou I say it my self .
And the use of Yorkshire teabags in your brew ............. The dogs tallywackle .
You have given me a good choice of cleaning products to use on mine when the weather is a bit kinder to me ( I'm a summer lover ...... Winter don't agree with me bones ;) )
Mines black and I always find no matter how I clean it , always comes up best , no other colour seems to look as good .
A job very well done there :thumbsup:
As toward your next set of alloys I've got a set of 18 BBS on mine ( bit like the ones in your link a say a bit like them )
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Different and they give the car a better look
 

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Phaha dont worry buddy can call me what ever you like am not easily offended :D much obliged boss, I was hoping to do a bit more on her today until the weather decided to take a turn for the worse. In my house hold there is only 1 teabag and thats Yorkshire, in fairness clippers do a good brew.

What products do you currently use? Summer is always a bliss for cleaning a car unless its too hot and it can make some products a nightmare to use. Although getting a tan makes up for it lol

Black is a strange colour it usually comes up and reflects like nothing else and looks brillant. It does however show up scratches and little dings more than most colours. On the other hand it hides tar marks so its win, win, lose, lose :D

Have you got a progress thread yourself Liz-T? I may have a nosey at your vehicle ;)
 

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UPDATE

So these came in the mail today





Now as we well know a set of Hirsch Pedals are in the hundred's of pounds and require drilling which I really cant be arsed with. Soooo I managed to pick up these, now the keen eyed among you may be shouting at your monitors going "Turd, the throttle pedal has no collar!!!" You are right and of course I was aware of this. The clutch and brake pedal simply slip into the metal plate once the old rubber ones are removed. The accelerator pedal usually fits in the same way, However my plan is to use some impact adhesive, clamp the pedal down and leave it until the adhesive bonds it together (Will likely be overnight or for a day) Job done, they need a bit of spit and polish as well. I always seem to drive bare foot in summer when it is baking hot so metal pedals always feel nicer on your feet lol

So hirsch used pedals what? £200-250+ GM Pedals £40-80+

These cost me twenty quid happy days :thumbsup:
 

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However sadly these will have to wait as Baarb is currently at the garage getting looked over. The tech asked me if I would take him for a spin to show the fault. So after taking him around the block and blasting it down the dual carriageway he could clearly see and feel the fault. Always helpful having a boost gauge as he could see the boost was fluctuating once it was passed 3k.

The garage has thrown me the keys to this!! (ive blanked off all the company marketing)




 

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Its a new shape Ford Fiesta 1.2 Manual, which I thought I may have been given something truly terrible perhaps a Ford KA Diesel with a cvt gearbox for s***s and giggles Although this is a saab forum I thought I would give me honest view on the car as its always getting praised highly, perhaps to highly...

Now I think this one is the poor man spec, but it still has electric windows, cd player and Air con (I think) which isnt to bad. First impression's "meh" its fairly smart on the outside, very typical wedge shape you get with super mini's but still it looks nice enough. Could do with a few bits of trim and alloys, a bit like the ST/Zetec S.

Interior is really nice, lots of funny strange shapes, blue and white illumination's and everything feels very nicely screwed together. The interior reminds me of the old Alienware PC's you used to get with the outrageous cases.



I think the design concepts are very similar.

Space is pretty good too, lots of cubby holes and drinks holders. Its also fairly light and airy I think its because of the shape of the dash. Regardless its nice to see someone think of a unique looking dash rather than the usual slab of plastic.

Now I struggle to sit comfortably in the fiesta, its by no means uncomfortable but I like to slip in there must be a pun in that somewhere lol I always feel I am sitting on it. I am by no means tall but still a good seating position can really enhance the driving.

Refinement is very good as well, it seems fairly hush at speeds and the suspension seems to be a good mix between comfort and firm. Body roll is here though, im sure the sport suspension eliminates that, but at a cost of comfort.

The engine......Well its a 1.2 so it has 1.2 level's of performance. What I will say though is it does seem to pull well at lower rpm. Not amazingly well, but respectful for its size. I think modern engines are tuned more for low end pull than the older days of 16v twin cam. Yes am only 25 but even I can say older days with good reason

Gearbox is spot on, I've not really driven a ford that doesn't have a good gearbox. Short, clean and accurate very nice to use.

Brakes are going to be marmite for some people, they are grabby, like really really grabby. I actually like that, I prefer it. But my old man hates it. So brakes for me are fine but for others they may find them a bit to on and off.

Steering for me is a major let down, its very heavy! In fact I would go as far as to say its the heaviest steering ive come across in a very very long time. I like heavy steering if it relates to a more natural feel. But the fezza doesn't really offer that, its very artificial in its feel and although it turns in well. The weight of the steering is just not enjoyable at all!

This really leads me on to my problems with the car. It all feels very artificial and synthetic. I say that with confidents because, Over the years I have driven many fiesta's the more recent older shape in various forms. 1.25,1.4tdi and the 2.0ST. I actually learned to drive in the 1.4tdi! The older shape in all those variations drove really nicely, not just good for a small car, just a good driving car full stop. It felt very mechanical and organic. I even remember thinking how awesome the steering used to be on the old car.

I think in summary this is how I see it. The new car is more refined and is more modern in terms of its style. Its quieter, smoother and very well put together. But to drive the older car is far superior, and much more fun regardless of engine choice. The handling of the previous generation was an absolute peach. So it feels like 1 step forward and 1 step back. I think its safe to say the new Fezza is tailored very well for the current market. People who want something that feels and this may sound rude but "remote" people don't really want to feel the steering wheel twitch or feel the gearstick vibrate in the hand. Instead they want to be as far away from the oily bits as possible. However if all you care about is having a good time and driving. The older car is by far the one I would have on my drive.

Anyway here's hoping I get Baarb the Saab back am already missing it lmao
 

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Right another update time!

The garage have stripped it all down and decoked it, the head mechanic says it feels a bit better but the issue still remains. He has spoken to a Turbo specialist they use who have explained that based on the symptoms it would appear to be an actuator that is at fault (what I thought it could be) apparently its not a simple case of swopping them over as the whole set up has to be rebenched and configured.

What they have suggested is they are going to send of the whole turbo system for a refurb. Depending on the cost if there isnt to much in it they have said they will replace the whole system. So I need to rebook the car in about a week or two's time as they will need the Saab for about a week and the need to arrange the diary so I can have the courtesy car for a week.

So as a summary im going to get ether 2 refurbed turbos and all the goobins, or 2 new turbos and all the goobins! :thumbsup:

Looks like that warranty has already paid for itself LMAO :D:crazy:
 
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