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Now I know Bill Jones got a little ribbing last time out, so I'm here to officially put the record straight.

Today at Goodwood there was a track day organised for charity with just a few top quality cars on track. TVR Chimeras, Ferrari 355's, BMW M3 and M5, Lotus Elise, Maserati 4200 GT and Ghilbi, as well as a track orientated RS 2000, Capri and Peugeot 106 rally car.

Now basically the weather was the usual Goodwood rain that is becoming quite familiar to us by now, but it did stop and the track was merely damp with a dry line by the end of the afternoon.

Bill had a little instruction at the start of the day from my friend and local Saab specialist Bob Nesbit, who although professing that he is far from being a Racing Instructor, has a far greater experience at these things than most. After this it was down to Bill.

By the time I caught up with Bill to cadge a ride he had the line almost sorted, and on the drying track proceeded to overtake everthing in front of him. A TVR Chimera and Ferrari both fell victim to the 'Silver Bullet' whilst I was on board! Indeed the only faster car was the Capri
which was stripped out for racing with a roll cage, extinguisher etc. A properly sorted race car with great amounts of power, amply demonstrated in the wet and dry. Bill was lapping in the 1m48's, easily 20 secs quicker than his Abbott track day times, and showing great confidence and good lines. All this with Climate Control and leather upholstry! I believe Bill is thinking of ditching the excess weight for next time . In the pit lane it solicited the quote 'This is the best unknown car here'. Watch out everyone we're getting noticed.
As I said the Saab done good....

Nick.

PS. Thought I'd post this as Bill might be too modest to blow his own trumpet. Hope you don't mind Bill?
 

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Wow, Nick. I'm flattered!
However, I think you are forgetting that the Pug 106 was as fast as the Capri. As you say, it was a rally car, so I don't feel too bad. I reckon he was by far the most entertaining to watch


Pity the Elise's driver seemed a bit nervous (his first time out?) as I'd love to have seen what it could do on the corners if driven with conviction.

Blow my own? If only...
But I think you're guilty of a little of the same, since some of that success was down to your advice around the track. Rather a team effort, I'd say.

Cheers, it was a lot of fun. And I rather like the CC and leather...

 

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Originally posted by Jason (currently without 9000CD):
[qb]I'm dying to have another go, it's going to have to wait a while though.[/qb][/b]
Jason, the other 9000 was a bog-standard CD 2.0T and he was having a whale of a time. He did come off at St. Mary's late in the day, but only collected some grass. Like me, he was lucky to get a cost-free warning to focus his attention. I must say that I learned a lot from your own mishap, and have been extremely cautious at St. Mary's since then. I did start exploring it a bit more late this afternoon, though, following advice from Nick and others, and there do seem to be ways to exit it quickly but safely.
 

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Sounds like a fair old achievement there, Bill, but it often seems that owners with expensive cars are more concerned about repair bills than driving the things properly round a track. Also shows, the difference a bit of driving ability makes as I have been told that Goodward is not a power circuit. Unfortunate about the Elise driver as even a standard one should set fast times around Goodward. I believe that 340r's, Exiges and modified Elises will do the lap in the high 1m20S's in the right hands. I have posted a note on the Lotus BBS asking for wet and dry track times to give you an indication.
 

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P.S. D'you think tandino wants to know that we were able to follow Bob's 900 Ruby through the chicane?  [/b]
Well, at that point of the day Bob did say he would be taking it easier, but it was also one of your slower passes through the chicane. I think the jury's out on that one, until next time perhaps?

One thing is for certain. Your car can get the power down with more conviction in the wet.

Oh, and my comments about passing cars were meant to be a reflection of Bills' driving and definitely not trying to say that a Saab 9000 is quicker than a Ferrari 355 in Micheal Schumachers hands!!!

Nick.
 

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Originally posted by JezF:
[qb]it often seems that owners with expensive cars are more concerned about repair bills than driving the things properly round a track.[/qb][/b]
I agree completely with that, and the whole point of a track day is that you only go as fast as you feel comfortable. However, anyone can slam their foot to the floor on the straight without fear of pranging the car, and I was easily able to out-drag the TVRs and Deltas and keep up with the Ferraris. Never actually met the Capri on the track, but judging by the way he blasted up the pit straight, he'd have left me standing.

I'll be very eager to hear what you gather about lap times. Are we talking standard road tyres? I'm sure I wasn't getting the car around anywhere near as quickly as an experienced driver could, with it only being my second time on the track. Then again, I know there are faster cars around and a car that didn't have to slow down as much for the corners as I did would make up a lot of time at Goodwood. For quite a while, we were convinced the Peugeot's brake lights weren't working
 

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Well done Bill! Fantastic effort and a great car!

I would have loved to see the faces on those Ferrari and TVR drivers when they came into the pits.. pity you didn't have a video or soundbites from the otherdrivers!

Congrats!

Mark.
 

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Bill, thought you might like to look at this URL - you are faster round Goodwood than Stirling Moss (well, in A Cooper JAP!):

http://www.unisys.com/about__unisys/spor...d__goodwood.htm

I haven't had much feedback on times, but one chap did 1M40S from a standing start in a 100bhp Seven and another older chap did 2m dead in a 160bhp Elise in the wet a few weeks ago. So, I reckon you definately did good!
 

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After you mentioned it, Jez, I looked around a bit and came across a chap who did about 1:26 in a single-seater, but he was doing 144mph on the straight, while I'm told even the most powerful road-going cars don't seem to get much above 125, for some reason. I only managed 120 (Mark E hit 125 on the Abbott day - he didn't have to brake so early).

I did draw some interest towards the end of the day, after some excellent advice from Bob, my instructor, Nick (cdcarlsson) and the organiser, Chris, who'd followed me for a while in a Lancia Delta before I gave up out-accelerating him on the straights and let him past because I was holding him up in the corners.

I've just been watching the in-car video tandino took on the Abbott day, and my lines were all over the place!


1:32? OK, bigger injectors, bigger turbo, another ECU remap, huge brakes, turn the Konis up the rest of the way ...

Well, something to aim for, anyway
 

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Originally posted by JezF:
[qb]Oh, this is a Galaxie, by the way[/qb][/b]
Wow! He must have two zillion horsepower and amazing brakes, 'cos I bet he had to welly along the straights, then slow down to about 20mph for the corners
 
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