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Hi all,

Took a 2.8T v6 Auto Estate ('06 plate - 60k on clock) for test drive the other day. Very nice indeed, smooth power delivery and exceptionally comfortable even with hardened sports suspension. I did notice the brakes weren't nearly as responsive as my current car (Mercedes C220) and there was a lot of steering vibration from 70mph upwards which again I don't get in my current car. The dealer did say that he'd put 2 new front tyres on so could be tracking etc which was my initial thought. Other point to mention in that it has now gone 11k miles since last service and is now due another. Rear boot pull-across parcel shelf is missing also.

The dealer is asking £5700 for the car and categorically stated right at the beginning of our conversation that he does not offer any form of discount. I think this is about £700 too much personally.

What do you guys think?

I have a slight issue of nowhere to store it at the moment without being on the road and having to pay 2 lots of tax / insurance!
 

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Firstly check out the car tax RFL situation, think these are £440+ per annum. If you are ok Paying that then fine.

If you give me the reg i'll value it for you based on that exact car.


are you px-ing? as this affects the valuation/price 2 change.
 

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Not part x no, was looking to buy outright but then he came up with a very good offer of £125 a month finance...YG06 LRV,

i have noticed though that the same car as a '55 plate is £280 RFL 12 months rather than the £490 RFL that the above mentioned is! How bizarre!
 

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Saab 9-3 2.8 V6 SportWagon auto 2007MY Aero

Registration number: YG06LRV

Year and Plate: 2006 06
Valuation date: 16/01/2014 10:19:54

Trade in price from £1,860.00 to £2,670.00
Private sale price from £3,340.00 to £4,350.00
Dealer retail price from £4,330.00 to £5,300.00
Based on average miles of 60/65k, FSH, etc.

I would say it was overpriced, baring in mind if you finance it also they get a nice 'kickback' from the finance company too!
I would want to pay around 4600-4800 dependant on condition.

If the tax is that much higher i would seek out a slightly older model.
 

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Thanks for this, tried to get hold of dealer just 5 minutes ago to say i think i'll give it a miss. Just confirms my original suspicions!

Going to look at '55 plate or maybe save up bit longer and go for the Turbo X version that i've secretly really wanted all along.
 

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Is the tax not £280 on an 06? On a 56 i.e MY07, it's £475. My 56 plate 1.8t vert auto is £475, on an 06 or 55 or earlier plate it's £280. Still, the car is overpriced and there's plenty about too.

Al
 

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Ah found the info - thought I was going bonkers with the higher co output of the V6T but no - I am sane lol:

Road tax costs for Saab 9-3 Sportwagon (05-11) 2.8T Aero 5d Auto
1 Sep 2005 - 23 Mar 2006
£154.00
£280.00
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264 g/km
23 Mar 2006 - 1 Jun 2007
£269.50
£490.00
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M
264 g/km
Registration Date6 months12 months First Year Rate VED Band CO[SUB] 2 [/SUB]
 

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Makes sense to go for a car thats a matter of 6 months older and save £210 a year on RFL!
 

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Ah found the info - thought I was going bonkers with the higher co output of the V6T but no - I am sane lol:

Road tax costs for Saab 9-3 Sportwagon (05-11) 2.8T Aero 5d Auto
1 Sep 2005 - 23 Mar 2006£154.00£280.00-K264 g/km
23 Mar 2006 - 1 Jun 2007£269.50£490.00-M264 g/km
It's really killing the market and value of the cars in these higher brackets.
 

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It's something that the government have screwed us over on yet again. The good news is though that performance cars are becoming faster, safer and more economical, but the RFL and other taxables is steadily increasing in line with these improvements....oh us mere consumable minions will never win :(
 

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I don't know why Saab waited until Oct 2010 to reduced emissions on the autos especially the verts...3.5 years at the higher rate. Surely it's just a bit of ECU tinkering. To replace my 1.8t auto with a 280 RFL I need a MY11 car. I don't think the V6Ts ever got down to the K band of £280 even in manual saloon guise.
Road tax costs for Saab 9-3 Convertible (03-11) 1.8t Vector Sport 2d Auto
1 Sep 2007 - 1 Oct 2010£261.25£475.00-L233 g/km
1 Oct 2010 - 30 Apr 2011£154.00£280.00-K209 g/km
 

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Tax on the Saabs is mental my 1.9TID 150 auto was £260 to tax for the year, I now have a BMW 3 Litre turbo diesel that is £175 work that one out :eek:
 

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Deano, it's bonkers how it all works but all I know is that the newer cars are forever decreasing their Co2 outputs and the government is forever counteracting that by increasing RFLP/VED each year.

Does anyone know if the 2.8 v6's are CAN belt or Chain link driven? I'm suspecting chain if my old 2.5 v6 900 is anything to go by.

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Try running a car in Ireland -
2.8V6 auto - 269 g/km... Irish goverment tax rates... drum roll........

€2,350 annually. If I wanted to import a second hand 06 from the UK - another €1825 (at least that's a one off tax)

Guess why none runs big engined cars anymore.....
 

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Try running a car in Ireland -
2.8V6 auto - 269 g/km... Irish goverment tax rates... drum roll........

€2,350 annually. If I wanted to import a second hand 06 from the UK - another €1825 (at least that's a one off tax)

Guess why none runs big engined cars anymore.....

Ouch!! I felt my bumhole clench when I read this HAHA
 

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One of the reasons I went for a 55 plate instead of a late 06.

Just a thought though, you do realise the audio system in the pre 07 cars is fibre optic and absolutely dog ****...its a right pain to upgrade if that's important to you? I know the tax is higher but at least you get a proper system to play with and it's really easy to uograde to something half decent like a normal car! It's my only complaint with the car, the system is terrible, why Saab did this ill never know :rolleyes:

Performance wise these really need a remap, the engines so under stressed its unreal! My choice would be JZW especially as it's an auto your after :thumbsup:(will go like stink trust me) :D
 

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Griffin, interesting you say about the remap, was considering this if i purchase the car as Hirsch are doing £399 for pre-07my cars. I checked out the insurance with this modification and it nearly doubled so is the extra power worth it?

Looking at a Turbo X estate also (pref Manual but none about currently) and I do wish SAAB had updated the exterior but left the my03-07 interior, I actually prefer more buttons and screens lol makes it look like it does more!
 
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