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Does anyone know when the next trackday will b???? I sadly missed the TD06 at Croft and would love to attend this years event to see some high performance Saabs.
 

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I would recommend the Snetterton race track in Norfolk. I attended a circuit day there at the end of last year. I found it to be easy to get to (as alot of members will find) as it is literally in the middle of the country. I cant wait!!

I would recommend the Snetterton race track in Norfolk. I attended a circuit day there at the end of last year. I found it to be easy to get to (as alot of members will find) as it is literally in the middle of the country. I cant wait!!
 

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John / Fliptop

Any news on a TD this year ? Just done one with Motorsport Vision at The Bedford Autodrome and am getting the flavour.

Chris
 

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Hi

Thanks for the invite
, but I am a bit tyred out after Bedford
Just 2mm left on 3 tyres. Not enough for a track day. As the car is going to be resprayed shortly and the wheels refurbed, I just don't want to go out and slap on a new set of Yokos.

Donnington is just about my favorit circuit after Bedford. It flows so well and it ideal for Saabs to blow BMs away.


But any time you are going on another day, from May onwards let me know and I'll join you.

Chris
 

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Worn tyres (2mm and under) will hardly wear on a track day as the tread will no move much, heat up or slip/tear.

I've run 3 or 4 on one set of tyres with only 2mm and they are only just now shiney.

they went to 2mm very quickly though.

Andrew
 

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Any news /john ?[/b]
Yes, I recently heard that the Saab Owners Club of GB Ltd (SOC) is planning their own trackday for June 2007. This has been done without any consultation with us, which is disappointing given that we have grown this as an annual event over the last four years. SSc Saab trackday was organised for the benefit of all Saab owners and enthusiasts regardless of whether or not they belong to a club.

I have been told the SOC was not happy with the way that we organised the event and they wish to leverage the event to gain more membership for their club. We would rather see benefit for all participants rather than just members of a club. Whilst I am disappointed that the SOC has proceeded with this without our involvement, based on our experience, there is not enough interest in two Saab trackdays in one calendar year, so I do not intend organising a competing event.
 

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SSc Saab trackday was organised for the benefit of all Saab owners and enthusiasts regardless of whether or not they belong to a club.[/b]
We would rather see benefit for all participants rather than just members of a club.[/b]
I'm surprised Fliptop didn't explain this to you but you'll be glad to hear that all Saab enthusiasts will be welcome to enter and/or spectate at the event, regardless of whether or not they are members of the Saab Owner's Club. Club members will receive a small discount on the entry fee but other than that there will be no distinction made between members and non-members.
 

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We were disappointed that having championed an annual Saab trackday for the last four years that Saabscene was specifically excluded from any involvement this year. They did not even have the common decency to inform us. The SOC has chosen to hijack this event since it has proven to be popular and a bit different to caravan weekends.
Club members will receive a small discount on the entry fee[/b]
Like I said, I would prefer an event that treated all Saab owners equally rather than charging more for non-club members.
 

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You know how intensely I dislike politics so I'm not going to get embroiled in who organises what. I was clarifying the point that non-members will be as welcome as members.

Like I said, I would prefer an event that treated all Saab owners equally rather than charging more for non-club members.[/b]
It is a non-profit-making event. In addition, the SOC will pay a small subsidy towards the entry fee for members, coming out of club funds, which ultimately comes out of the members' annual subscriptions, which seems fair to me. The total of the entry fees will amount to less than the cost of staging the day.

In addition, some sponsorship has been offered from outside the Club. This will reduce the entry fee for all entrants equally.
 

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I do not doubt that non-members will be welcomed. The point I have always made is that SSc wants to run equitable non-profit trackdays to the benefit of all participants.

Abbott Racing previously ran a trackday which I, unfortuantely, never drove at. I booked up for one that they did not run.

Consequently Saabscene arranged its own trackdays which we have done for the last four years. These were done for the benefit of all Saab owners and enthusiasts whether they were members of clubs or not and regardless of whether they posted on Saabscene. The aim of the event was a non-profit making exercise where the cost of the track was divided equally between the participants.

The SOC wants to leverage a trackday event to attract more members to their club. That is fine in itself, but what SSc is disappointed at is the way in which we have been excluded from an event that we have championed over four years.

Like you, Bill, I dislike politics, which is why I am not a member of the SOC. The fact of the matter is that the SOC has hijacked our popular event. I am disappointed at the SOC's bullying behaviour. I know for a fact that there is not enough interest in staging two events. I do not want to get invovled with a club playing political games which is why I have already stated that SSc will not be organising a competing event.

It is, however, a shame that the SOC sees fit to usurp a group of petrolhead Saab enthusiasts to claim an event for themselves in order to further their own interests. I am not sure that the SOC event really is a non-profit event - they have specifically told me that they want to use it to sign up more people as members to their club. That is clear in my mind that they want to derive some benefit out of the event as opposed to a group of guys on the internet who had the foresight to organise truly non-profit events for themselves.

A subsidy was offered to SOC members for TD06 and I believe there were no objections from non-members.[/b]
There were objections at the time - it was requested that there was no difference in price for members/non-members, but the SOC had their own interests in mind.
 

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/john,

Saabscene approached the SOC to request sponsorship of the Saabscene trackdays for SOC members following the SOC's sponsorship of the separately-organised Elvington track day a few years ago. If objections to this arrangement arose during subsequent track day events, I wasn't aware of them so accept my apologies for misunderstanding. I still cannot see how it is reasonable to expect SOC members to pay their annual subscription in order to subsidise the entry fee for non-members. A small subsidy towards sponsored events is part of the benefit paid for by the subscription fee. And we are talking about a small subsidy.
 

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I still cannot see how it is reasonable to expect SOC members to pay their annual subscription in order to subsidise the entry fee for non-members.[/b]
Thanks go to West Midlands Saab Specialists, Howe Engineering and Bond Street Saab who have all sponsored previous Saabscene Saab track days to the benefit of all participants regardless or not of whether they were customers of those particular establishments. WMSS did a cracking job supporting our second event, thanks to Steve at HoweEng for sponsoring Goodwood and to the Barre brothers at Bond Street for laying on professional instruction and passenger rides at Croft.

Bill, like I said, I have no interest in playing politics with the SOC. The fact of the matter is that the SOC is organising a trackday that we have been championing for the last four years. I will not be organising a competing event.

I do not really see any point in a spat on this when we have given the SOC a clear run at the event this year.
 

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Bill, I have never doubted nor implied that all Saab enthusiasts would not be welcomed by the SOC. I'm pleased that we agree on that.
 

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Bill, I have never doubted nor implied that all Saab enthusiasts would not be welcomed by the SOC.[/b]
In that case, please accept my apologies for misinterpreting your post.

I'm pleased that we agree on that.
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So am I, /john
 
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