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Just seen this on Autotrader, Advertised as a Carly but looks like a modded standard CD FPT to my eyes.

1992 J Reg Saab 9000 2.3 16v Turbo Carlsson CDi
Petrol, Black, Hatchback, 5 Doors, MOT-03-2003. Air-Conditioning.Abbott racing tuned, 300 BHP, Full Grey Leather, Black Alloys, Sports Suspension, Walnut Dash, A.B.S, Traction Control, Full elecrics £2,995.



Basically, I've worked out it's going to cost me around £3540 to get my car up to that spec. But I know that my car has a good engine and gearbox and fewer potential timebombs.

HELP!
 

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If I was you Jason, I'd go along and have a look if you can afford the car. If you look and drive it, you'll probably make you're mind up. You'll also have a better idea of whether it is a Carly. If it is modded and would be cheaper than converting yours then I'd go for it mate.

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If I were you I would ask a Saab Specialist or Dealer to spend an hour examining it to tell me what is wrong with it, unless you are confident and competent to examine the vehicle yourself?
 

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Well, I've had 3 9000's now and nearly 2 years of reading the threads in this forum, I'm pretty confident that I know all the potential timebombs in a 9000. My CD does make a pretty good benchmark as most of the major work has been done. For the Abbotted car to be worth twice as much as mine it needs to be twice as good, does it not?

Anyway, I'll take a check list with me and work off that.
 

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Looks like you've already decided to go for a look - which is what I've had done too.

Very expensive though - even though it's got Abbott mods, I'd expect it to be immaculate for that money.

Don't forget the obvious pitfalls of faulty TCS/ABS units!

As you mentioned, may be just a modded CD FPT - those are certainly not standard Carlsson alloys.

Look forward to hearing your comments!
 

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Very expensive though - even though it's got Abbott mods, I'd expect it to be immaculate for that money.[/b]
Assuming the trader will offer me £1500 for mine, I'd be happy with the asking price. It would still be much cheaper than modding mine.

Don't forget the obvious pitfalls of faulty TCS/ABS units![/b]
Yep, the standard timebombs I'll lookout for are:

1) TCS/ABS warning light staying on.
2) Noisy timing chain when warmed up.
3) Low bite point on clutch.
4) Gearbox wear (during test drive).
5) Turbo smoking or loud whistling on acceleration and/or erratic boost levels.
6) Air Con functioning.
7) Full service history especially the dates when the mods were installed and what parts were used.
8) Has it been misadvertised?
9) signs of oil leaks in the engine bay or "check oil" light staying on.

If it's not up to scratch on any of the above I'll walk away, after all I'm not desperate to change after only 7 months with my current car.

As you mentioned, may be just a modded CD FPT - those are certainly not standard Carlsson alloys.[/b]
Nope, but I'd expect that, they look like 17" Azevs. Still, if it's being misadvertised I will walk away.
 

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Jason,

Remember to check those headlight reflectors as well
Also check door bottoms for rust. When I removed the side skirts from my Carly the back of the sills had rusted badly where the drain hole had been block so have a good feret round there too.

What sort of milage has it do and how many since modded to 300BHP? To me most modded cars mean shorter time before big blow-ups - head gasket, gearbox, drive shafts. If you have a car that you know well then think very carefully before buying a potential money pit.

Also check-out insurance quotes.

Personally I'd spend £800 or so and get the extra 48bhp from Speedparts and have plenty of cash left for brakes and tyres and repairs after track days plus the insurance

Traction control - would'nt touch it mate - has your current car got TCS? If so then OK but if it hasnt dont go out and buy one with it.
 

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Traction control - would'nt touch it mate - has your current car got TCS? If so then OK but if it hasnt dont go out and buy one with it.  [/b]
Yes it has, fortunately the throttle body was changed a week before I picked it up. I am getting cold feet about the idea to be honest, I'm thinking better the devil you know.

I'll just have to set myself a tight budget for the upgrades and stick to it. Best not to try and keep up with the likes of Mark E, BillJ and Ylee.
 
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