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Hi there,

I just took my Saab into Vauxhaul Rowcliffes in Taunton (that have a decent ex Saab mechanic in there) for its MOT and it failed because of rear disks and pads. I am pretty sure those disks are about two years old or less so wasn't expecting that. Anyway, they were quoting £189 inc vat to change rear pads and disks.

Also, I have had a engine light on for the last few weeks, P0-400 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Malfunction which I believe relates to the EGR valve, I have cleared it twice and it returned. The garage have quoted £286 for a replacement part and manual regen. I have not experienced, yet, any other symptoms with this fault. No loss of power etc.

Anyway, these two prices seem pretty expensive to me, and wanted to check opinions on here.

I think I am going to try a local garage with someone we know.

Do these prices sound high, should I look elsewhere?

Thanks
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Hi,

Not sure about he EGR however the price for the rear discs and pads seems fair, - I needed mine done quickly and went to Kwik Fit - came in at over £200,
I have bought cheaper brake parts on EBAY before - false economy in that they wore out and warped at an alarming rate, given the sensible move away from asbestos
they do not last as long as I remember in days of old - depends what was fitted previously.
 

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Well both jobs are relatively easy DIY...why not give the valve a thorough cleaning as its likely just clogged up with soot?
Plenty of guides on this forum and youtube etc a basic socket set is all thats needed.

http://www.saabplanet.com/diy-remove-clean-egr-valve-on-saab-diesel-engines/

Once cleaned a good blast on the motorway at above 2500rpm for 20mins should be enough to force a regen
Brand new original Saab EGR valves cost around £65 or less..........plenty of good deals on disks and pads for a similar price.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-V...e:Saab&hash=item35e4d4d8b9:g:SHgAAOSwPcVVwgk3

If you use a garage they will charge labour and a mark up on parts.
They will also often swap parts when they could perhaps be cleaned.......and they want to make a profit.
 

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Well both jobs are relatively easy DIY...why not give the valve a thorough cleaning as its likely just clogged up with soot?
Plenty of guides on this forum and youtube etc a basic socket set is all thats needed.

http://www.saabplanet.com/diy-remove-clean-egr-valve-on-saab-diesel-engines/

Once cleaned a good blast on the motorway at above 2500rpm for 20mins should be enough to force a regen
Brand new original Saab EGR valves cost around £65 or less..........plenty of good deals on disks and pads for a similar price.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-V...e:Saab&hash=item35e4d4d8b9:g:SHgAAOSwPcVVwgk3

If you use a garage they will charge labour and a mark up on parts.
They will also often swap parts when they could perhaps be cleaned.......and they want to make a profit.
Thanks for those links, I always figured the valves would be dearer.
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....I just took my Saab into Vauxhaul Rowcliffes in Taunton (that have a decent ex Saab mechanic in there) for its MOT and it failed because of rear disks and pads. I am pretty sure those disks are about two years old or less so wasn't expecting that. Anyway, they were quoting £189 inc vat to change rear pads and disks.....
Funnily enough, it was Rowcliffes that I recently bought a 'brand new' still boxed genuine GM alternator from for £120, bit of a bargain that. My own labour, nowt except for bruised fingers lol!

I'm not sure myself what discs you have on the back (are they vented or solid?), but if they are solid and they are 278mm, then to give you an idea, you can buy them yourself for this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAAB-9-3-...053365?hash=item2346c33435:g:FDsAAOSwofxUidgX

or vented, listed for Vauxhall but same parts for Saab:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-V...308449?hash=item3ab28734a1:g:itQAAOSwsB9WBQvh

So effectively, if you were able to do them yourself, then you can do them pretty cheap using genuine parts. I replaced my own rear discs a couple of months back, Fremax discs and genuine GM pads £45 all in.

Brand new EGR valves either genuine Pierburg or aftermarket for a standard 1.9, can be picked up on the bay from £38 up. Easy to change.

Self install on all parts, less than £100.

If you haven't had a brake fluid change in a long while, I'd get that done too, shouldn't cost more than £45 at a garage. Not a job I can be bothered to do myself because ideally, the car needs to be off the ground. Even a one man job at a garage, it takes just about an hour. I know this because I watched the mechanic do it on my own car just a few months back.
 

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Hi All,

Thanks for the comments, as my wife was driving the car and with the new 'live' MOT system we were talked into having the disks fitted in the end. Oh well, perhaps I can buy and fit myself next time.

We didnt have the EGR work done, and I am wondering about cleaning it. I just found this http://avontuning.co.uk/2013/06/saab1-9-tid-ttid-dpf-egr-removal-delete/ which is interesting. What the disadvantages of removing the dpf/egr, has anyone done this?
 

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We didnt have the EGR work done, and I am wondering about cleaning it. I just found this http://avontuning.co.uk/2013/06/saab1-9-tid-ttid-dpf-egr-removal-delete/ which is interesting. What the disadvantages of removing the dpf/egr, has anyone done this?
I'm not taking the moral high ground here, just informing you. You should be reminded that dpf removal is not legal and technically, you would be rendering your insurance invalid because no insurance company would insure you if they were informed of the fact that you had taken action to remove the DPF. By not informing your insurer that you had removed the dpf, you would be withholding a material fact and by telling them the car has not been modified in any way when you knew it had, you would be lying to them. Trust me, insurers are now becoming very switched on to DPF removal due in part to the reams of stuff people have posted online. They're not stupid and given half a chance to throw out a claim, they will. Also, if you are involved in a serious accident that requires forensic examination of your vehicle, you'd have some explaining to do. Ignorance isn't a defence in law by the way. The choice is yours, but you should be aware:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/diesel-particulate-filters-guidance-note

To be honest, I've had no issues with my own car, everything is intact. Frequent oil/filter changes, proper runs to ensure the dpf can undergo a regeneration and the use of decent quality fuel, will in many cases prevent premature dpf clogging and EGR problems. Just using these cars for short trips to the shops won't do them any good whatsoever, they need plenty of motorway/dual carriageway runs and if you live right next to a motorway like me, that's easy :D
 

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I do a couple of long commutes along the m5 each week, 70 miles each way so it does get a good run. I have the car booked in with another garage and I expect I will either clean or replace the EGR. If I had more time, I think I would attempt to clean but flat out at the moment. I still don't get any other symptoms with the fault so other than the light, its a bit odd. How do I ensure a regen on the motorway, is it just a case of changing down and getting to 2.5-3k revs for 20 mins etc??

If i get some time after Christmas I would like to lavish some love on the car. I need a few scrapes fixed, I have a front fog light gone and a/c is not working. I don't think I will be removing the dpf, but i am considering getting the car remapped. All I need is time and lots of money!!
 
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