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From the off I will take is as read that you have taken the wheel off & its not so badly damaged that its gone flat..... We are just tidying up the aesthetics here.....

A lot of specialist wheel refurb companies will tell you that you need to have the wheels x-rayed & professionally jiggered about with ........ Well that maybe true. But you can get brand new Saab alloys from a dealers for around the £50 mark. The 17" jobbies I've seen, so you might consider this before making a decision.

All in the bits & bobs I bought to refurb cost me in the region of ..... Umm £30

I started by whipping the wheel off & shoving the spare on so at least the car was usable while your getting busy....




Clean the surface of the wheel up with some paint thinners on a rag, or some white spirit ..... We are degreasing the proposed painted area.... then use say a 180 grit wet & dry abrasive paper to scratch up the surface. I use one of those delta tipped detail sanders usually if I have a fair bit of prep to do... Just beware that the wheels are not steel they's a alloy, thus quite soft, so easy with the electric sanders ..... Pends on how fussy you are with your prep work ...... I didn't really have the motivation to be over scrupulous today.... The car is nearly 10 years old & has the odd scratch on it ....... Its up to you how far you go as you can see I didn't knock myself out with effort here.


I mixed some of this up ...... About a teaspoons full



And lightly applied it to the areas that had some kerb rash :(
 

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After the filler had cured.... Lets say an hour later.... It depends on the mix proportions, type of filler & ambient temperature how long this stuff takes to dry ..... Today it was 31*C here so it went off in 20 mins flat. (Due to the small quantity I made up, I only had about a four minute window to apply this stuff)

Anyways once the filler is dry its time to get busy with the 180 wet & dry & I lightly sanded the area ..... Let me stress the point here LIGHTLY SANDED..... We are not trying to de-rust the Titanic here, as you can see on the picture I have feathered the edges carefully & the kerb rash is looking better.


I find this to be the easiest way to mask off the area..... (Cheap too)



On with a coat of primer & let it dry .......

 

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When dry I tend to check that the vast majority of the imperfections have gone, if not you back to a little more filling & light sanding
then I use 1200 or 1500 grit wet & dry to take the surface down nice & smooth ..... Remember we are flattening the paint here, not removing it.



Then on with a coat or two (Ideally at least two) of silver spray, aluminium spray or in my case a Product called silver wheels, by Tetroseal
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I have used Tetroseal grey primer, Silver wheels & clear lacquer on this project..... You might want to shop around for it.... I think I pay £4 a can for it ...... But I guess it all depends on how many cans you want etc etc

I have found that the Tetro paint products are quite forgiving as far as hiding slight imperfections & the main thing I like about their aerosols is the nozzle generates a really good controllable fish tail shaped spray pattern, which allows you to put more or less paint on as required....... When painting either choose a calm still day, or take it in the garage.... If you have a old pair of glasses ... I'd wear those, because this stuff gets everywhere... Leave the garage door open too because this stuff generates quite a pungent smell...... Please don't spray pain't in the house because you will get in trouble off the Missis ..... For both the stink & the over spray as I said gets everywhere.....



So after two coats of silver, it really needs three coats of Lacquer.....



As you can see..... Within a hour I managed to achieve this .......

Once at this stage leave it all alone for a good two hours, & don't attempt to refit the wheel to the car for a good 24 hrs ..... These layers of paint really do need this amount of time so set.....

As you can see I didn't paint the back of the wheel, you could its up to you ...... You could even paint the back of the wheel a different colour..... I suggest candy pink ..... Or lime green :D

The big ones here are to ensure no grease including off your fingers get on the surface that is to receive the paint.... Nothing sticks to grease so keep it clean .... Use a microfibre cloth to remove the dust & remember not to shake out the dust from the rag while the paint is drying ....... Well not in the same area anyways.

If a fly or whatever glues itself to your newly painted surface..... Leave it till its properly dry. Dig teh fly out of the remaining hole & splodge a bit of body filler in the hole .... Feather it out.... & repaint ...... If you try grabbing the fly when the surface is wet you will in most probability make the damage worse ........ (I wish I hadn't done that, etc etc...)

If you really want to be the talk of the neighbourhood you could apply some tyre slick before you put the wheel back on ........ Always good to be considered a fussy git by your neighbours ...... I get mine from here ...... Not the cheapest I know.....

http://www.valeterspride.co.uk/5-litre-long-life-tyre-rubber-trim-and-bumper-dressing-209-p.asp

This company does a lot of very good quality cleaning products, however know this, Some of them are very strong & require diluting..... READ THE LABEL & always test a new product on a inconspicuous area before going mad with it.... So remember these are pro grade products & not the stuff that you get from asda .......Be careful
 

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Nice work! I've only got top trumps for masking - do you think they will work? They are my favourite gumball 3000 ones I take on holiday though. Lol at you with the playing cards....

Can I just add my 2p's worth? A few years ago I kerbed one of the alloys on my previous car, did what JM did above and it came out a different colour to the others - friggin hell looked like crap, so I ended up paying to have them all refurbed. So be warned if your going to try this - watch the colour matching!
 

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I'm currently refurbishing all of mine ...... You know I didn't think of that (Colour mismatch) ....... But my advised price of £30 was for the stuff to do five wheels ..... Yeah five ...... I bought a extra alloy from a dude who was parting out his 95.... I dunno why he was doing that but £20 for the wheel £55 or so for a new tyre, took that plastic doofer outta the boot (That w0t holds the space saver spare aloft) with a club hammer ..... No I didn't actually need a hammer that big, but it was new & I just felt I should use my new tool for something ...... Anyways the boot carpet only sticks up .5" higher than it should..... No biggie to me ...... So Now I have a full size matching spare ...... & a spare space saver wheel leaning up against my bedroom wall ...... Gonna have to find somewhere to put that.

I guess if you only really needed to refinish one wheel, it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to do two ...... Front & back ...... Both the same on the same side ? ......

I've been considering colour coding my wheels ....... My car is Steel Grey, So steel grey wheels might (Or might not) Look too chavvy ? I dunno .......

While I'm here ....... If you bunch of un-cooth reprobates ;) fancy looking http://auto-paint.co.uk/carpaint/ you will find they do really good stuff for both the talented DIY'er (Like me) & Pro's a-like ...... I really recommend their touch up bottles..... There's none of the usual three containers of paint that the dealers & halfrauds sell...... Its a un-pretty bottle of paint, the cap is a brush and you just poke it on to your stone chips & that's it (Shiny fix) ..... Should you find after a year or so your paint is going a bit thick & gloopy, nip to your local body shop & take a lil jam jar with a screw top lid & say ...... just this ..... Well this is what I said: "Scoose me chief..... Could I have a bitta thinners plz, I'm going all gloopy here" ..... They laff, you tell em you have some two pack touch up that's a bit thick ...... They will twitter on about you needing hardener for two pack..... You say well let me give it a go ....... They give you half a jam jar of thinners, you chuck them a fiver & you have enough paint & paint life extender to last until the next millennium..... Brillyant .........

On a more serious note, if you buy metallic paints in a rattle can they don't immediately provide a gloss finish ...... You surface prepare, perhaps a little primer, flatten, spray on the metallic finish (X2 maybe) Then Lacquer X2 coats ..... Flatten the lacquer with 1500 grit or so, Then lacquer X2 again ...... Voilla soopah shiny colour coding ....... Whoa....... That & Tyre slick & that fine filly @ #42 will be waving at you from behind the net curtains like a biatch on heat ....... :D
 

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Nice work! I've only got top trumps for masking - do you think they will work? They are my favourite gumball 3000 ones I take on holiday though. Lol at you with the playing cards....

Can I just add my 2p's worth? A few years ago I kerbed one of the alloys on my previous car, did what JM did above and it came out a different colour to the others - friggin hell looked like crap, so I ended up paying to have them all refurbed. So be warned if your going to try this - watch the colour matching!

echo that i used tins and they were all slightly different colour #fail so moral of the story is use the biggest tins you can or use a compressor and mix enough to do all the wheels with one mix !

not to detract the how to JM well done !

great write up
 

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Love the use of playing cards!

great write up, am thinking of changing the colour of my wheels this winter...
 

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[HR][/HR] looks great, same alloys as I have. Mine are looking very tired combination of previous owner and wife, honest. Anyway as far as spraying goes I'm a novice, how easy is it? Would it be a big gamble, ain't got the funds fir professional job. I do like the sense of achievement a job like this can give. Also I'm looking to keep to the same colour how far off is the one you used, looks very close. I've been quoted £110 a wheel professionally, not happening.

Cheers in advance
 

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Nice work JM! So you sand only enough to scratch up the surface, no need to remove all of old lacquer/paint coat? As for primer, is one coat enough?
 

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Excellent post, certainly a job for the summer, if we get one in 2014.

BTW does anyone know if you are able to get the paint made up in to an aerosol with the correct colour code for the wheels. I guess not, however just a thought.
 

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Guys,

I know I'm resurrecting an old thread but anyone know of a good paint stripper for wheels ? I have a set of 5 spokes that have bubbling around the bolt holes as well as along the spokes, some kerb damage. I think they need a bit more than rubbing down and I don't feel like spending £50 a corner.

Paul @ Kippen.
 

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This was a very timely find on the forum as I need to refurb mine. I recently bought a 9-3X SportWagon on which the alloys have a bit of kerbing, etc. Nothing too bad or deep and I was going to get them done professionally but having watched a few YouTube vids on the subject and having now read JM's write-up, I think I'll do them myself.

My main worry was trying to get the paint code for the silver on the alloys but I reckon that won't be possible so I'll go down the Tetroseal route (or similar) and just spray all 4 the same colour.
 

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I've gone bananas since I wrote this & cot myself a small compressor & a touch up size spray gun ....... Life has fgot a bit more complex having to buy paint & thinners & working out the mixing ratios, but all in .... applying the paint.... which is the trickky bit is a whole heap easier ..... I have found two pack laquer is fantasticly great at shruging off minor spills & dings...... But it has to be said if you buy a sensible standard colour for your wheels, you can obtain a touch up stick, for the times .... Well when you really don't want to start over with the offending wheel.

Getting a paint match ? ...... I really wouldn't bother trying ..... Paint both wheels on the same side ..... Ah Voilla ..... Can't tell ...... The guys at St Helens auto paint will sort you out with whatever colour you want ...... But they don't really know what Saab use as standard TBH .....This is all a bitta tittling up ...... Umm yeah ..... Worth a mention ..... These guys will mix up a rattle can (Spray Can) of whatever colour you desire...... Be warned they can get dear (Custom colours)....... Me ... I buy a few cans of what I feel in the mood for when theys on cheap at my favorite motor factors ....... Each to his own I guess :D
 

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My Latest ..... I went from the Standard Silver to Silver Grey ..... On a Titanium Grey car ...... I like it ....... You mob ...... Well who knows ;)

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I did this too! ........ Nay too shabby wiv my new Badging etc ;)
 

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Well, I had a go at refurbing my wheels on the 9.3X. It was OK: bought the primer, topcoat and lacquer from Halfords and used my dremel to clean up the worst of the kerb rash but the alloy silver paint just didn't come up very well, even after several coats of lacquer. That was back in April but by last week I was sick of the look so I had them professionally done by The Wheel Specialists in Burton on Trent.

Brilliant finish. Nice bright metalflake with lovely deep lacquer. Not too pricey and got a discount as a returning customer (they did our two RAV4s a few years back). Nice folks to deal with as well - highly recommended.

Unfortunately I can't seem to load up a picture of the newly-refurb'd wheels!:confused:
 
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