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I am picking up the new battle-wagon (or bat-mobile as my 4 year old lad calls it) on Saturday, '99 9-5 2.3T SE Estate, and reading the forums and subject to the run home from Nottingham, am considering going the Hirsch route for the suspension. If the improvements are anyting like the Abbot results on my 9-3 then it is a must (along with the stage 1 !!).

So, for all you chaps who have done this, did you order the parts yourself and fit them/get a garage to fit, or did the garage supply and fit themselves?

The only reason I ask is I took the 9-3 to a local Saab 'specialist' for an oil and filter change (I cant get under mine with the skirts) and mentioned the 308mm brake upgrade kit and Elkparts, and all I got was a blank stare and sucking of teeth as they have never heard of such an upgrade, Elkparts, or infact the steering rack clamp or bulkhead issues on the model, hmmm, won't be back there again.

I want to avoind any numpties ordering the wrong thing or hitting me with an unreasonable mark-up on parts (usually 30% for independents).
 

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I did my suspension as part of a full upgrade (incl engine, wheels and brakes). I e-mailed the 4 nearest Saab dealers and asked for a quote. Then I chose the cheapest

I'm too old to consider DIY these days on anything that is "non-service".

The Elks price is the same as the dealer price (within a penny) but the dealer will not charge delivery and may discount the fitiing if you buy the bits from him.

The suspension is good - even my wife approves!!
 

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Had Hirsch suspension fitted to my 03 plate 9-5 Aero Estate. Ride quality if anything has improved; its certainly seems less crashy over bad roads. Major improvement noticed over v.fast undulating sections though. Where as before it felt like I was steering a barge, my car is now much more composed.

With suspension you simply get what you pay for. I deliberated for ages over a suspension set-up for my old Peugeot 205 GTI. In the end I opted for a Skip Brown set-up based on bilstein dampers valved to their own specification. It wasn't the cheapest option (c/w a similar Bilstein Sprintline kit) but the ride quality again was great - much better than a Koni set-up which I ran years ago - with much improved handling :)

Unless you are going to use your SAAB for track days in which case you'll want very focused suspension set-up, I would say that for day-to-day driving you'll be very happy with improvements offered by the Hirsch set-up, with total peace of mind that it has been designed specifically for the car.

Incidentally, I noticed that my Hirsch set-up utilised 'black' Eibach springs. The dampers however were simply silver and branded as Hirsch but I suspect they're made by someone else too.

Hope this helps.

Jase.

P.S. Ran a tank of Shell V-Power yesterday for the first time and the engine definitely seems to rev more freely than on Tesco 99 (Stage 1 Abbot Racing with freeflow exhaust and race cat) Has anyone else noticed such an improvement?
 

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Oops - I think I responded to the wrong thread but on a similar subject of Hirsch suspension!

To answer your question I had the suspension fitted to the car by the supplying SAAB dealer £900 fitted - they absorbed the labour cost and stomached a small discount on the parts.

Jase
 

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Had the Hirsch springs and dampers fitted to the 9-5 estate this weekend.
Very nice.
Dropped it slightly, much tighter feel and a lot flatter throught the corners.
The car feels much more sure-footed and arrows out of the bends with some applied far better than before.

Maptun Stage 1 for my christmas present to myself I think.
 

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Which dealer did this for you in the end then ?
Do you think that the ride is better overall ? What about low speeds ?
 

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It was a local indy, Station Garage in Liphook, Hants, fitted as part of a service.

Units were £750-odd from Elkparts and they charged me £140 to fit plus new topmounts which they recommended and supplied for about £50 I think, all plus the dreaded VAT.

The ride is firmer without doubt but not still has that big car comfort, just a more sporty. At low speeds does not feel that much different from the original setup, just 'tighter'. Potholes are more noticable of course, but it now feels more sorted but still refined.

And I can take the roundabouts quicker
 

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Which dealer did this for you in the end then ?
Do you think that the ride is better overall ? What about low speeds ?

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Mark,

I'm going to try and make the PH'ers meet at VW on Sunday, you can have a try of my Hirsch suspension then if you want
 

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After 15,000 miles my suspension is noticeably softer.

...and, it all depends on which Hirsch suspension you have

There's a noticeable difference in ride height between my car and some other cars with the "same" suspension.
 

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...and, it all depends on which Hirsch suspension you have

There's a noticeable difference in ride height between my car and some other cars with the "same" suspension.

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