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How easy is it to clock the odometer on a 9-5? If it can would the old mileage be still in the ecu providing that has not been changed.I was told it is stored on the ecu.
 

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Why would you wish to do this??? If you have a legitimate reason for doing this there are specialists who can change the reading but I dont see why you would need to do this unless you are trying to be fraudulant in some way? If you are replacing the clocks when marrying the new speedo head to the car it will show the correct mileage and unless you marry it to the car the vehicle will not run.
 

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Oh no its not me thats trying to clock it, but I fear that my one is already clocked because the dealer in slough told me that the last time they done work on the car it had 105k miles on it, but there is 78846 miles on my odo. He also said that the original mileage MIGHT be recorded in the ecu.Thats if that has not been changed. Just wondered if it is true.
 

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The mileage is stored in the control unit that is part of the Main Instrument Unit. This is the panel with the gauges on it in front of the steering wheel.
 

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How long since your car had a UK MoT test? The UK Mot history of the car, which the registered owner can access online, will tell you what the recorded mileage was at each MoT. HTH

BOF (Forty years of bodging......)
 

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I dont know dennis, there was no history with the car, but how would I check about the uk M.O.Ts. I dont live in the uk, thanks for the info tho.
 

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Jimmy, where did you buy the car from (ie dealer or private). Essentially what you are saying is that you believe that you have been defrauded by the seller, which is a criminal act. In light of this then if the car was UK registered then you should be able to contact the DVLA to get some information, although that may need you to be the registereed keeper (free). Failing that then you could contact the police in the area you bought the car.
 

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Thanks for the replys guys, well I am afraid she was bought privately.She was originally registered in the uk, and I was able to trace the dealer in slough that serviced the car at the specified times.There is a gap between 66k mile service and the 105k service.But the reading on the odo now is 78k.She was re-registered here in Ireland in march 2008,and also has an Irish nct (uk mot) done in April.Not too sure if the previous owner was aware of this or not.She does not look like a car that has done that sort of mileage tho,very little wear on seats, steering is not worn either.So I dont know it is a little strange to say the least.The reason I have researched all this is that the dealer said there is wear in the timing chains so tried to know if the sump was dropped anytime. :rolleyes:
 

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James,

When you bought it, you would have been given the V5 cert. This cert had the registered owners details and Registration number. When you brought it to Ireland, you would have given the V5 to the Revenue Commissioners in order to re-register it and pay the VRT. If you have the UK reg plate, you should be able to run a vehicle history check and/or get the MOT certs from the UK Authorities (DVLA?).

Hopefully your car isn't clocked, but as you know, you should never buy a car without a history or some time of checking.
 

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Sadly it is near impossible to prove WHO did the clocking and if they intended to defraud, as the way this tends to happen is that the person who eventually sells the car on to the final punter is not the one who clocked it. He will have bought it off another person who may also have bought it of someone else who maybe was the person that the last registered keeper sold it to. It is a deliberate chain, as it is not illegal to actually clock the car just to profit on the sale of a clocked car (fraud). Of course we all know that the person who actually did the clocking was of course doing for profit but he buffers the cars sale between him and final purchaser to hide this.

I remember a mate sold his mini metro for scrap at 110,000 miles with more rust than metal - and he subsequently received a call from a nurse who bought it all looking lovely and shiny at 60,000 miles! Of course bits began to fall off and she started investigating the history and sadly found out the truth! It had passed between 5 people between my mate and her, none of them actually registered it so it was impossible to prove who did it and get compensation.

Caveat Emptor - let the buyer beware! It holds very true in all cases.

To Jimmy - at least you now know the rough true mileage and can service / treat as such. Hopefully as a Saab, it will be tough as old boots and will give you long and trusty service.
 

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Sorry, I should have mentioned it earlier but I am the second owner since it was re-registered here in Ireland, so wont have those documents.Would the dvla be able to get info from the reg and/or the vin number?
 

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When was the 66 and alleged 105k service? Look back at the other services and see if it's likely it did those miles in the time between 66k and 105k. May just have been a dealer that recorded the service of another car under your reg number
 

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James,

Call Department of the Environment in Shannon and explain. Give them the Irish Reg and they'll be able to give you the original UK plate and you can go from there.
 

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Oh really, yes I will try them then they might throw some light on the matter, thanks a million.But I know the uk reg number, its on vlc form.
 

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Sorry, I understood that you didn't know the UK Reg.

In that case, you need to contact VOSA (vehicle and operator services agency) and explain, you should be able to get copies of the MOT Certs].

According to my MOT Certs, they can be contacted at:

0906 1209941
(From IRL +44 906 1209941)
6am til 10pm - 7 days a week

This is a premium rate number so i'm not sure if you can dial from IRL

have a look at www.motinfo.gov.uk
 
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