I moved this to the Classic 9-3 & GM900 forum as I think you'll have more luck here. The c900 roof either goes up and down or it doesn't, the NG/9-3 has timing devices for the tonneau and all sorts of other stuff that I don't understand. But someone here will.

 

I moved this to the Classic 9-3 & GM900 forum as I think you'll have more luck here. The c900 roof either goes up and down or it doesn't, the NG/9-3 has timing devices for the tonneau and all sorts of other stuff that I don't understand. But someone here will.

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Ten or fifteen minutes I try to answer, because I know a quite lot about these tops (even they are for NG 900), and You move it...

 

Anyone know anything about this?

I do really need to try to get it to work, it seems to get hung up half way down on the Passenger side in the rear.

Thanks,
Bryan

 

Ten or fifteen minutes I try to answer, because I know a quite lot about these tops (even they are for NG 900), and You move it...[/b]

you can still answer it, and the original poster would welcome your response.

 

The obvious question is how's your battery? The roof takes a fair bit of power and if the battery is marginal then it could drop the voltage low enough to cause problems with the roof that won't manifest itself with other systems (Saab say to have the engine running when operating the roof). Checking the battery health is an easy job you could get done at any garage.

The roof uses a complicated sequence of potentiometers and limit switches to monitor where the roof is to manage the 'ballet' of the folding and un-folding. Assuming your battery is OK it sounds like one of these has gone bad on you and the roof computer, to prevent damage stops the roof operating.

The roof computer, just like the ECU will store fault codes and so the only recommended course of action is for your Saab specialist to plug Tech2/ISAT into the car and see what the roof computer is complaining about. The roof is complicated so you do need the specialists in this case. Once the Tech2/ISAT is plugged into the car the roof sections can all be driven individually and the fault isolated quickly.

The windows shouldn't move when opening the roof but they do drop a couple of inches when closing the roof.

Hope this helps,

Andy

 

Andrew,
Thanks for this information. I was also thinking about the battery, as we just purchased the car about 2 weeks ago. This does happen when the car is running, but I was thinking about hooking up my battery Jumper to see if it made any difference, as a battery would be a cheap fix.

If that still does not do it, then I will take it to the Dealer to have them run the computer diagnostic on it.

Thanks,
Bryan

 

you can still answer it, and the original poster would welcome your response.

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I do...
Where exactly it stops? And do You hear something just before it stops? What about SID? Asking you to check conv. top?
Check all switches, especially those two inside luggage compartment, they are emergency switches - in case, that there is something, what prevent top to close (or open), they will switch all system off. Just a bad fold carpet can activate these switches...

 

Misu,
The top stops almost straight up, on the way down into the compartment, it seems the passenger side, on US Version is where it gets stuck or stops. There are no noises, it just stops, if you go back up a second and then switch back to going down real fast it will then go down no problem.

Yes, the SID says to check the soft top.

Any other help that you can give me would be great.

Thanks,
Bryan

 

Ok,
So we just got the car back today, from the shop, getting the oil leak fixed on the oil pan gasket. The shop screwed us and messed with the top, well now the top will not do a thing. It will not go up or down. It is mostly up, but the back top of the cover where the back window is, is not latched, so it is sitting on top of the cover.

I figure it sounds like something is not getting any power, as the switch will not allow it to do anything. Can anyone tell me where to look on this?

Also where are the switches that Misu was talking about, that he stated were in the trunk, are these the two buttons on the bottom of the cover in the trunk, that the Convertible top folds down into?

Also can you tell me where all the other Switches are that you have told me to check? This car is new to us, and I am not familliar at all with convertibles, this is the first I have ever dealt with. Luckily it is a spare car for my wife, as a toy.

I really need some help on this.

 

Well - what a mess! Even though your President aged our beloved Queen by 200 years earlier this week, let's try and help you

I'm afraid for a safe diagnosis and to avoid throwing parts at the problem you really need the Saab dealer to check the roof out using the Tech2/ISAT computer.

These switches are all over the roof mechanism, the two in the trunk are in what is called the 'bag' where the roof folds into and are there to prevent you trying to close the roof on an over-full trunk - you should get the message 'Check Trunk' in this case. The other switches and potentiometers are on the roof mechanism and if you manage to get the roof into a part open condition you can see them on the various hinge points, look for the cables running to them.

To get a feel for the roof and the issues there is loads of roof information here in the body section (especially 'Convertible Top Diagnosis (PDF)' - loads of drawings).

Sorry your introduction to Saabs is proving to be so traumatic... hang in there friend.

Andy

 

I am sorry about your Queen, I have not payed any attention to the news in a while, been to busy and all, so I have no clue what happened with that. lol

Also, I have had Saabs for a while, just not in a year, lol. Never had a convertible one though, this is I think will be my wifes third and I had one in the past. So we have had them over time for sure.

I will be taking a look at the links you gave me and starting to work on it tonight to see if it could be the switch. I will be seeing if there is power that is even going to the switch to put the top up and down, first as it seems there is no power or something of tha that sort at this moment.

 

Ok,
So now I have messed with the top alot, there is a manual lever behind the back seat, this has a cable that goes back to the trunk and connects to something around the Tonneu motor. This cable is broken at the Manual Release lever. I think this may be part of the problem, but not sure.

When messing with the top last night, I can get the back Window, I think bow 5 to go straight up, but thats as far as I can get anything to move. Its like something is stopping the Tonneu cover from lifting up, as it should. I don't hear any grinding gears or anything, I thought about putting 12 volts directly to the motor to see if it would do anything, but I did not want to blow it out. Can anyone tell me if this does indeed take 12 volts, or is it a different voltage.

I also will be setting up an APT for the diagnostic at the dealer to figure out what is wrong.

If anyone has any information, that would be Great.

Thanks,
Bryan

 

If the manual release has been used then the tonneau motor needs to be manually reset into position - right hand side (looking in) of the trunk is where you will find the motor. That will be why the tonneau won't be opening.

Sorry, can't describe it in more detail as I have never had to do it myself. but I guess that it will be obvious when you are looking at it, I think you just click it back into position so that the gears mesh. Mind you, if the cable has snapped I'd be careful about simply resetting it.

Once the fifth bow has lifted then the roof needs to wait until the tonneau has made an open limit before allowing any further action so with no drive to the tonneau then you won't get anywhere.

I'd be careful about randomly applying volts to drives, let the dealer test it all using Tech2.

Andy

 

I have a Dianostic Apt next Tues with the Dealer, so they can test and tell me what is wrong. I sure hope they can, and its not an arm and a Leg.

Thanks,
Bryan