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Having seen the light 5 years ago and buying my first saab, a basic 9000i i was nearly in tears(don't laugh!!!) when I had to sell it (the clutch went) the best car I have ever had by far. Anyway, 2 months ago i bought a '96 2.3 CSE lpt manual, in silver, Black leather, 48, yes 48k miles and it is absolutely mint, LOVE IT ALREADY!
I have got a few hundred quid spare and would appreciate some guidance on what to spend it on to get a few more bhp out of my beaut. Also how much should she be making in standard guise?
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Definately go for a LPT->FTP coonversion. all yuo need is a BPC solenoid, its hoses, a FPT ECU and maybe an intercooler if your car hasn't one. You'll gain 30 hp if I remember correctly (from 170 to 200?), and some say that fuel mileage would be better too.

It's a completely saab upgrade (very easy and surely effective, and it doens't compromises reliability at all.

I can't help you much more because I haven't done this myself, but many people here can tell you how to do it. This was just my advice.

PS: welcome to Saabscene, Jon.
 

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OK, heres a list:

K&N FilterCharger Kit
FreeFlow Exhaust
ECU upgrade
Rising Rate Fuel Regulator
Atmospheric Blow Off Valve
27lbs/hr Injector Set
Swedish Dynamics Red Head.(flow benched-30% more flow.)
High Performance Throttle Body.
T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo.
Good Luck- I want to see the dyno results!!
 

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If after the full pressure turbo conversion you still have some money, buy poly bushes for the front control arm and for the rear sway bar. Even if you go for the expensive route, Abbott, this will cost you no more than a couple hundred punds I guess. There are other manyfacturers of them, a lot cheaper.
They will do a dramatic improvement in you car's steering response and feeling (the first) and handling andneutrality (the latter)(they reduce a lot understeer).

Let us know what you deecide.
 

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What i have just had done

Abbott poly bushes are worthwhile and inexpensive, i plan to do the intercooler and wishbone bushes/springs+dampers later on in the year.

I have an auto which is why i chose the Abbott ECU over the Speedparts one as it actually produces less power, plus want the car to be reliable and thought that the 65bhp speedparts upgrade without fitting an intercooler etc would shorten the life of the engine.

Plus i learned a hell of alot by going to Abbott and talking to Ed and Giles and watching them work on the car
 

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C'mon guys, Jon said he'd a few hundred pounds to spend ... not thousands.

Jon, get a turbo boost (relief) valve. You can get them from some of the more specialist car shops at about £25, and it'll add maybe 15 - 30bhp, or you can get one from Abbotts at about £60 (have a look at their website.) This is without doubt the easist way to up-power the car. I'm completely useless, technically, and I did it myself - it simply fits into the wastegate pipework. I subsequently upgraded to the Abbott one when I got them to put on a Motorsport dump valve. This was all about 40k miles ago and no problems.

Having said that, I'm presuming they can be fitted to LPT cars, mine's a FPT.

Welcome on Board, Jon.
 

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Originally posted by Gassy
Jon, get a turbo boost (relief) valve... Having said that, I'm presuming they can be fitted to LPT cars, mine's a FPT.[/b]
Unfortunately Gassy's second thought is correct. You won't get much joy fitting a bleed valve on an LPT as a) you don't have the pipework (or APC solenoid to over-ride) & B) even if you fit the pipework you will hit fuel cut out at 0.38 bar (base boost is set at 0.3 bar). Those figures according to Abbotts BTW.

You can improve throttle response a bit by messing around the fringes with a free flow filter, piston dump valve and so on but the cheapest bang for buck would be sourcing a 2nd hand FPT ECU, pipes and APC solenoid then fitting to your car (assuming there is no alarm or vehicle specific coding in either ECU).

The main tuners are Speedparts (through www.elkparts.co.uk ), Maptun , Abbott & Hirsch . Any of these will take you past FPT performance levels.

I've found the standard LPT's suspension is certainly capable of taking 235hp especially with the addition of some polyurethane bushes. You'll probably want to fit some fast road brake pads tho'!



Oh and I agree with everything written in the article Al linked to
 

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Yup, you've really got to go down the ECU upgrade route on your car for any real noticable improvement.

FPT ECUs can be obtained for around £200-£250, and APC solenoids for about £70. AFAIK there is no vehicle specific coding.

Ther's only one small error in the artcile, not that it makes much difference.

Probably because base boost is still set at 0.3 bar at the wastegate there is no real turbo lag.[/b]
Base boost will not affect turbo lag. It's still relatively low primarily because it's not a big turbo.
 
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