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i'm thinking on buying a 2.3 carlsson could someone tell me what the pro's and cons are and what goes wrong with these cars,running cost and are they easy to find.

p.s anyone know the where abouts to H160 bmg i think that was the reg,its a black 2.3 carlsson
 

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You are bound to get messages regarding the TCS on this car.

Traction Control (if your car has it) can be problematic, and very expensive to fix. TCS is linked in with ABS. Ensure all electrics work (especially Air Con).

Ensure that things like the Gearbox, Timing Chain are okay, as these are the most expensive to fix.

Don't touch anything without a Full Service History.

Insurance isn't too bad, though probably best through a Saab Specialist.

Apart from that, the cars are superb - mental mid range acceleration. Wolf in wolf's clothing.

Expect Mid 20's MPG on the car - lower for hard town driving.

Is this a CS Carlsson or a "Classic" 9000 Carlsson?

How much do they want for the car?

I have a 1991 Carlsson 2.3T with 160,000 miles (including TCS) and am a very happy chappie!

Kevin Mc
 

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Thanks for the reply kevin,i havent found a car yet but am looking out for one,i want the cs i have a budget of £3000 will i have trouble getting a 2.3 carlsson for this or will they be very tatty,i'm not to put off buy high miles but its the things like TCS that worry me a little but i sure would like a carlsson and in black
 

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Stuart - I'm sure for £3k you will get a nice CS Carlsson - it will just take time.

There are a lot fewer out there than CS Aero's.

I paid £2300 for my old shape 2.3 Carlsson last August, and probably overpaid by a couple of hundred quid.

I wouldn't discount the older shape ones entirely (as I did initially). If you can find an older shape 2.3, I'd at least give it a test drive to get a feel of the power.

If you've set your heart on a CS Carlsson, you'll probably have to look further afield, unless you're very lucky. I had to travel from the Midlands to Hampshire to get my hands on an old shape 2.3 Carlsson!

There quite a few Calsson's for sale, but the vast majority are "classic" 2.0's.

For £3k you would be in touching distance of an Aero, but for that money an Aero probably would be tatty or very high mileage.

I only saw one CS Carlsson for £2200 about a year ago - but this had done 220,000 miles and had turbo problems. I know one of the mechanics at Trent Saab who bought a black CS Carlsson for less than that (with obligatiry knacked Turbo) - but as he's in the trade, he's sorted it for next to nothing.

Be wary of non standard upgraded 2.3's. Don't get me wrong, converters such as Abbott Racing and Trent Saab are excellent, but a lot of insurers run a mile at the thought of a non standard car.

As a guide - at the time of looking at the high mileage CS Carlsson, I was quoted around 350 for the Carlsson, and 1300 for my CS 2.0 LPT if upgraded to 190BHP (as opposed to 225BHP for a standard CS Carlsson!)

Good Luck!

Kevin Mc
1991 9000 Carlsson 2.3T
 

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thanks again kevin,i think i will look out for non cs carlsson then,a late H reg or J if i find one i will let you know, i dont mind a travel to look if its a good car, anyway thanks again
 

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Just keep your eyes peeled - I looked on Autotrader nationally a few days ago, and couldn't find one 9000 Carlsson.

Having said that, I noticed that someone down the road from me has sold his 9000T16 and now has a CS Carlsson.

A week or so ago, I did see an old shape 2.3 Carlsson on Autotrader - asking price was £3995. Even considering the 96k miles, I thought he was dreaming if he thought he was going to get that money. (More like £2995).

I'd look at some standard 2.3T's too, as this will give you an idea of the general standard, with regards to bodywork etc. It'll just give you more of an idea of what is good and what is not, for when you do get to see a Carly!

Just to warn you - the steering wheels on Carlsson's are smaller, and obliterate the top of the speedo. Torque steer is standard fare too - so is fixed grin when loud pedal is used. :)))

Kevin Mc
1991 9000 Carlsson 2.3T (220 BHP)
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If you are considering standard 2.3 Turbos with a mere 200bhp, and are in the sub £3000 market, then I am still trying to sell my 92 CDS 2.3 Turbo (Manual), vgc, fsh etc, £2500.

I am only selling this as I am getting a 97 Aero... Mmmmmm....

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