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Hi all,

Going to show my age and probably alienate myself from everyone with this one but ...

I'm at a point where I can migrate my 15" sub, amplifiers and cabling into the Aero now. I do all my own work when installing systems and was wondering if anyone has any advise on cabling runs in the 9Ks. What are the best routes for heavy power cabling and what are the panels like for removal and re-fitting?
Anyone actually mounted amplifiers and subwoofer to their 9K?
I'll also be replacing the OEM speakers over the next few months so will be looking at 4" components dor the dash.

Thanks for any info
Lee
 

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Originally posted by Beastlee:
[qb]Going to show my age and probably alienate myself from everyone with this one but ...

I'm at a point where I can migrate my 15" sub, amplifiers and cabling into the Aero now.[/qb][/b]
Phew - I thought you were going to say you had a caravan
I think you'll be alright around here with ICE stuff - but someone more knowledgable than myself will help you
 

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I found some good sounding Kicker 4" units for under the dash. As for the back, I have left the original units in since they aren't too bad...for now!
I did try some Sony ones for the front but took them back after trying the Kicker units (although twice the price). I think that getting some bass in the 9k is a problem due to the decent build quality of the car - it dampens quite a bit (unlike for example a Saxo etc).
 

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I connected my 15 mm power suply cable through the left side of the car. At least on LHD models there is a big rubber grommet in the footwell. the signal cables from the head unit to my amplifier are running through the right side of the car. And my cd Changer's signal cable is running through the middle of the car. I'm using pioneer speakers in front running on the original wires from the head unit. Sony X plods in the rear connected as front speakers to my Amp. And a 500 Watt Sub providing me with some bass. Still isn't enough yet. I'm making a rear parcel shelf with big holes in it. To get more sound out of the boot. As it is one big isolated chamber.
 

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Hi there,

You might be surprised at the age of some of us, though I believe John/ is pushing 75
. Only kidding, John/, just getting you back for that comment about my Fiat 9000....

Anyway, I don't know much about the wiring side as I leave this to the specialists. I know that there is a damn great Phoenix Gold thing (big fuse?)under my bonnet, with some very think cabling! I (and others) have power amps mounted on the underside of the boot. There is enough room, some might question the cooling, but it seems to work fine in mine.

In terms of subs, I'd have thought a 15" is a bit on the large side? I have a free air 12" JL sub mounted on the underside of the shelf, which works very well.

Not sure if I would bother moving speakers to the doors. I have replacement coax units (Boston Acoustics) fitted in the original enclosures and they seem to work very well indeed. The fronts need to be shallow fit if you don't move them, though. Speaker panels are easy in the front, but prepare to have scratched hands and arms when changing the rears - you have to pull the boot lining away from the speaker mountings and then get a spanner in from underneath to loosen the plates that the speakers mount on.

After a bit of fine tuning, the car actually sounds pretty damn good. Less need for dynomat than on a hot hatch as Saabs are properly bolted together!


ps. I wish I could spell!
 

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Hi Lee,

There's no problem at all with cable runs for the power amp. From the positive term' of the battery you can follow the starter motor lead and go underneath the fuel filter on the bulkhead. Just under the fuel filter there is an enormous 'bung' in the bulkhead, which will take as much cable as you wish to route through it. From the inside of this bung, above the felt panel in the passenger footwell you can go behind the black plastic cover that goes over the cill, (this is released by a torx screw near the felt panel, one by the 'B' pillar and a couple below the SAAB logo in the middle of the cill). The rear cill cover is released in a similar manner, then go through to the boot via a little arched hole below the carpet above the rear seatbelt anchor point.

I've run the power to my amps in this way in three different 9000's (an '87, '90 and '93 model) so you should be OK. I have used 25mm cable, so unless you are running the national grid you ought to be fine. There's plenty of room for speaker cable to go back to the front via this route as well if you're running the front speakers off the amp in the boot.
For the RCA cable, I've gone down the similar route on the offside of the car from the dash, across the top of the drivers’ footwell to the cill cover, then as before.

Nick.

PS. Of course you be using an appropriately rated fuse within inches of the positive terminal on the power feed?!
 

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my two pence worth as a fellow alien

however many subs you put in the boot youll never get the 'saxonova style'- buzzing and vibrating numberplate and uncontrolled boomy bass that doesnt actually go that low.. if you want to 'impress' folks in town centres youll never manage (but wouldnt be in a 9000 anyway?)
the front components respond well to light amplification through a high pass filter, no need to move to the doors, mountings are lovely and fronts only supply stereo image..
add some decent rear fill 6" amplified in the standard locations, then add subs to taste
one 12" rockford fosgate punch will impress hifi type people, two makes it more 'teenage' sounding and can overpower the front sound stage easily, volume increases and quality drops off - and 4 punches is just ridiculous (but it had to be done!) hurts inside the car and annoys everyone in a two mile radius with the boot open
 

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Originally posted by rhino2.3t:
[qb]however many subs you put in the boot youll never get the 'saxonova style'- buzzing and vibrating numberplate and uncontrolled boomy bass that doesnt actually go that low.. [/qb][/b]
Agreed, as the 9000 is made of rather more substantial stuff. IIRC I can generate well over 120dB at bass freqs inside my 9000 but it's barely audible outside... two low res free air 10" subs in the parcel shelf, each driven by a true 100W rms takes care of that!!

The cable run is as Nick described. One possible unobtrusive location for the amp is on the underside of the boot floor, above the spare wheel. It all depends on how much heat it's going to be chucking out.

I put mine under the drivers seat, and ran substantial speaker leads from there. To aid removal of the parcel shelf, I used a Speakon connector- you can get them from the likes of Maplin.
 

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Thanks for the info so far guys,

in my 405 Mi-16 I managed 131dB with the kit have and I'll be using a better matched box for the SAAB. I'l be using a 60Amp fuse very close to the batt with some 6Gauge power cable and 3 Stinger Dream Series phono cables (about the same diameter). These will feed a Lanzar 4 channel 900W amp for the fronts and rears with a Lanzar 500W 2channel (running mono bridged)powering my DB Audio Raptor 15" sub. As yet I just have a Kenwood Z838 MP3 player but that will become a DVD player sometime. The Clarion 6 DVD changer has been moved to the wife's GOlf GTi 16V.

Well I'll poost again once it's all in, hopefulyl with a few pics to show you my handywork.

Thanks again
Lee
 
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