[Stewart]

Has anyone got a web addy for them, I was also on Abbotts site but are they a bit expensive or is it just me, cheers.


Stu

 

[billj]

http://www.hirsch-performance.com/

It's not just you. Abbott are a bit expansive. So, for that matter, are Hirsch (in my opinion).

 

[Stewart]

Cheers Bill....Yep they are every bit as expensive,it's quite obvious that when you want power they all make you pay for it!!.
Now I may be wrong but is not just couple tweeks from something like a PC to get a ECU upgraded or am I talking rubbish.


Stu

 

[SteveN]

Now I may be wrong but is not just couple tweeks from something like a PC to get a ECU upgraded or am I talking rubbish.[/b]

Don't forget the development costs for those couple of tweaks and the fact in Hirsch's case they have a lot of hoops to go through in terms of testing &c to be the official performance partners.

 

[billj]

The actual upgrade requires not much more equipment than a PC and some software (for '94-on Trionic upgrades, anyway). However, it's not just a couple of tweaks but a complete remap of the system and as SteveN says, there is an enormous amount of development behind a well-engineered upgrade. This is especially true of the T7 and T8 systems, which are much more complicated and more difficult to understand and modify successfully.

A good analogy is Microsoft Office (or any other piece of commercial software). It probably costs substantially less than £1 to press a Microsoft Office CD. Why do you pay a lot more? Setting aside any arguments about Microsoft raking in the millions, it must be quite apparent that it costs them a lot more than £1 million to produce 1 million copies of Microsoft Office, given the huge amount of development (and marketing, distribution, etc.) involved.

And on top of all that, they need to make a profit or they might as well not bother.

 

[Stewart]

Fair enough I stand corrected, I didnt realise just what was involved.

 

[Dave_NI]

Jesus u aint wrong, they are expensive. I am (eventually) gonna do it the hard way, but the parts and get help installing them.

I recommend ELK for the parts.

 

[billj]

Originally posted by Dave_NI:
[qb]I am (eventually) gonna do it the hard way, but the parts and get help installing them.[/qb][/b]

An ECU is pretty easy to replace. If yours is an LPT (can't remember), then a BPC valve isn't too hard to add. Depending on how big an upgrade you're doing - an uprated exhaust can be a job to fit, as can an intercooler if you don't already have one. I'd say go for it. There are plenty of people here who can help.