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Hi All,

As economics dictate, I took the plunge and left my job (nearly 20 years service) for pasture's greener. From the commute point of view, I've dropped to <6km door to door, so sadly the SAAB is going, and I'm gonna change 'er in doors car for a more practical estate diesel cruiser - you'd never know, I might convince her on a 93 Aero TTid Combi.... (she's an Audi nut)....

Anyway, on the positive I have a dilemma -

Big Bumper 16V Golf GTI (MKII) or a 205 1.6 GTI as a weekend runabout / occasional commute car for when its raining. Anyone any opinions on pro's and con's..... I'm into the whole 80's thing and have found a few of these about... (MKI Golf it just outside budget for a decent example). I'm swaying more toward the 205 as I see it as an appreciating classic and the cool factor, there's a few about and any opinions on what to look out for other than the standard stuff would be apreciated...

Would love a 900, but space dictates something a little smaller...
 

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Hi Kev keep the saab

205 all the way here believe me:D, easy to work on carry out subtle mods ;) if one wants ......................opt for a 1.9 if you can get one
 

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Older cars such as the GTI and 205 are getting rarer and more desirable as the 80's generation goes in search of reliving those days and has the money to do it. Nothing wrong with that! :) says the man who is looking to buy a 1980 DT250MX to restore and relive his yoof :) I am lucky inasmuch as i owned and or drove a lot of these cars back then.

The real issues are rust over 30 years these cars are likely to have been patched, damaged and repaired and getting a straight strong shell is vital. The mechanicals are pretty straight forward and supported by many specialists and suppliers and many parts being re-manufactured. It is likely at 30 years old the paint has been tidied or the car resprayed, if a full respray then ask to see pics of the work, any decent resto will have these.

Mint cars are making good money, but the best you can and if you do not know what you are looking at get it inspected by the RAC/AA or such. Prices vary a lot and especially with 'classics' one persons minter is another's restoration project, condition can be subjective.

There are a lot of cars to choose from from really good example to absolute dogs and modified monstrosities, remember original is desirable and never underestimate that value of that. Also, it can be the details that cost, certain parts are rare and hard to come by and command a serious premium. Mileage is also key, low miles really does command a premium

Old pugs suffer from real electrical problem's and 30 y/o wiring is not good at the best of times. everything needs to work!

I recently look at buying a Pug 205GTI 1.6 anniversary model in the met green but decided against. There really is a lot of choice, try lots before you buy.

Whilst fun to drive they simply do not feel quick compared to modern machinery, but then again it is about how it makes you feel, not how fast it goes.
 

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Apples and oranges Kez, your cars are hardly standard are they. :) In std form they are hardly quick compared to a lot of modern cars. std cars command high prices, originality being key. Agreed re subtle mods, s/steel exahaust, uprated manifold and induction, rear disks, better struts and springs and a tweak to the map are acceptable as long as the original parts are kept to be put back on. a 'stanced' coilover equiped modded car might be quicker and may hadle better but is not original and people buying back into thier yoof are after original on the whole - this is true of the whole classic car scene. the exceptions being cars with interesting histories.
 

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My advice would be get a VW. The only reason being, when you come to sell on there is a larger group of enthusiasts / people willing to part with decent money for an old car. My better half runs an old VW polo we've had since new and the servicing is dead easy on them, easy to fix if things go wrong.

Having said that the gearbox is on the way out and that is not a DIY job...

However with these older vehicles and zohan said - its all about how it makes you feel.
 

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agree with the performance of later modern cars being better espcially as most incorporated a turbo ven on small engines lL up, where as in our days this was a rareity although we could even name a few back them, reno5 mg uno all classics in there own rights.
its the stigma of reviving an old classic to which the 205/golf gti are definatley ones to fall into this catorgary and originality as you say is the key in return you will have a car capable of achieving decent speeds and most important turn heads
on the flip side of this there is also a high demand these early classics being moded esp to those that once were the top of the league in the early rally days again originallity is the key rather than implanting another engine

tbh even though road legal the ones i have mentioned are not really pratical as an every day use road cars

them were the days and in there time some belting cars
 

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Thanks for the advice, i found a couple of each in pretty good shape (haven't the time nor space for a project). I think it'll boil down to the specifics of each example. There's really one of each in the running, an absolutely mint 205 (1990 1.9) and a Golf (1988) with the mods you'd want (subtley lowered, discs all round, xenons)......

Ireland has somewhat of a limited market and the UK is always an option, but car has to be VRT'd(double taxed) to bring in and has to be tested if post '83 within days, so could be an instant money pit...

Hmmm.... Gona miss the twin blowers on the ttid, but in real terms I think the runabout will be more fun on public roads....

What's more fun - coming into a corner way to hot with vented power assisted brakes and a bank of airbags, or 20mph slower with a solid steering column pointing at your jugular!
 
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