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Having just trawled back through previous posts about brakes, I can find lots of comment on Pagid and Ferodo but can't find feedback about EBC pads and discs. Has anyone any experience of these? I love my new 9-5 after running 9000's for many years but can really feel the extra weight when braking, and living here in Milton Keynes (for those that don't know, all dual carraigeway and roundabouts)I desperately need to improve my stopping power and feel. So while saving up for a 4 pot upgrade, the EBC green stuff pads on their Turbo Groove rotors seemed a good idea but if I go by feedback on the forums so far I should go for Brembo HC discs and DS2500 pads. Anyone else been here with a quick 9-5?
 

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I've always heard good things from EBC here in the states. But I'm sorry I cannot offer any personal experience. Hopefully the right member will be along soon to expound on the matter.

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I can tell you that Greenstuff proved to be awful on my 9000. After only a few hundred miles they became noisy ("humming" noise), dusty (far worse than standard) and cold performance was dangerously bad with hot performance not that great either. I ditched them the day I hit a dog on the first stop of the morning. Took forever to stop from 30mph but luckily I only tapped the beast and knocked it gently off its feet and it received an education rather than injury.

I've been told since that EBC don't recommend Greenstuff for anything as heavy as the 9000. How the 9000 became an application for Greenstuff, then, I don't know, unless it's applied to all vehicles with that particular caliper.

I have also heard that Greenstuff has recently been reformulated but I have no inclination to try them again.
 

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many thanks for that. makes sense as my experience of green stuff pads has been on 'bikes (where thay work well) Seems odd to spend more on the pads than the discs though (Brembo HC & DS2500)Any recomendations on where to go for best prices on DS2500?
 

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There's a good supplier in Leighton Buzzard- not too far from you Geoff

Circuit Supplies (UK) Ltd
Unit 22, Harmill Industrial Estate, Grovebury Road, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, LU7 8FF.
Tel: (01525) 385888
Fax: (01525) 385898
E-mail: [email protected]<br />
Part nos for DS2500:

FCP256H (Fronts, BMW M3/Ferrari) and grind 1mm off each end
FCP296H for the rears (BMW, straight fit)
 

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Thanks Mark - I assume that yours is the white 9000 I sometimes see out around Mursley/Swanbourne way with Saabtrackday.co.uk down the side? I'll give you a toot next time I see you
 

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When I changed my front brakes recently I wanted the 308mm Brembo discs for my 9-5 Aero, but they aren't listed - so I stayed with standard discs.
 

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I have found the part number for 9-5 DS2500 front pads - FDS 1068 (Ferodo's own part number)but they do not list a rear pad to suit. Anyone found a suitable alternaive from the range?
 

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Originally posted by sgould:
[qb]When I changed my front brakes recently I wanted the 308mm Brembo discs for my 9-5 Aero, but they aren't listed         - so I stayed with standard discs. [/qb][/b]
I quoted EBC for 308mm rotors for my viggen (same fit 9-5 aero) and this is what the replyed

Disc D1070 is not yet available.
We are currently waiting for them to arrive, they are expected in 4 to 6 weeks. GD1070 will be available 2 weeks later.

D1070 is a direct replacement for your existing disc.
GD1070 is our Grooved & Spotted disc.


This was about two weeks ago, so the rotors should be available soon.
 

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The Saab 9-3 Viggen weighs between 1315 kg and 1415 kg depending on the exact year. (Weighed mine at 1415 without me even in it!)

Hardly lightweight, if I'm not mistaken that's the same or very near the weight of most 9000's.


The 9-5 Wagon on the other hand. Now that's a tank of a car!

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Hmm, just a note on Greenstuff and Redstuff pads...

I admit, I had an Escort RS Turbo back in the day (quite light car really).. I put some Greenstuff pads on that and I have to say they were rubbish. The brake noise was very loud. The Pad wear was terrible, and when they got too hot they just didnt stop the car at all!!

Now after that car I got a Mondeo ST24 and used RedStuff pads. Totally different. fantastic braking, not too loud brakes and the wear was ok...
 

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Originally posted by Ant9000turbo:
[qb]Hmm, just a note on Greenstuff and Redstuff pads...

I admit, I had an Escort RS Turbo back in the day (quite light car really).. I put some Greenstuff pads on that and I have to say they were rubbish. The brake noise was very loud. The Pad wear was terrible, and when they got too hot they just didnt stop the car at all!!

Now after that car I got a Mondeo ST24 and used RedStuff pads. Totally different. fantastic braking, not too loud brakes and the wear was ok... [/qb][/b]
Greenstuff will be ok for street use but they do not last on race track. This is due to the fact that they cant tolerate more than 500deg C or so. Redstuff work better on track but they dont grip so well. Also do not use reds on front and green on back rotors because friction factor or what ever you call it is way larger for greens. If i remember correctly greens are 0.5 and reds 0.3. So use std back and red frot or green green combo. Reds are good for 750deg C or so.

I oredered a red front and black rear (std like).
 

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Originally posted by Vigge:
[qb]Greenstuff will be ok for street use [/qb][/b]
Not on C900s, GM900s, 9-3s, 9000s or 9-5s


They are NOT SUITABLE FOR HEAVY CARS. For the sake of argument, I'm going to define heavy as above 1 ton. They start out OK, but after a few thousand miles they deteriorate rapidly and become very unpredictable. I and several others have experience of this.
 

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Originally posted by Mark E:
[qb] QUOTE
Originally posted by Vigge:
[qb] Greenstuff will be ok for street use [/qb][/b]
Not on C900s, GM900s, 9-3s, 9000s or 9-5s


They are NOT SUITABLE FOR HEAVY CARS. For the sake of argument, I'm going to define heavy as above 1 ton. They start out OK, but after a few thousand miles they deteriorate rapidly and become very unpredictable. I and several others have experience of this. [/qb][/b][/quote]Ok, I belive you but this is not what EBC told me. Anyhow experiece is always better than manufacturer promises.
 

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My EBC rotors are warped after 4k miles. I'm living with it for the time being as I do not have the funds to change them. To be fair, I had a problem with a loose wheel and the hub had to be replaced. I am sure the problem is related

They look awesome on my 1997 900, slotted, dimpled. I remember when they were new they stopped horribly until they were bedded in at 500 miles, then progressively better

cheers,
nick
 
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