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The brakes in my car have never been really sharp. From speed the servo would powerfully slow the car down, but I find it hard to pull up sharply eg if someone stepped in front of car at fairly slow speeds. It slows but doesn't bite like my carlsson. I had the pads changed (saab pads) but it hasn't helped much. The dealer and specialist tested it and said they were ok but I'm not sure. Any one got a view on this please.
 

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If you're looking for an upgrade I can recommend the Trent Saab Stage 2 upgrade. This consists of Brembo grey-iron discs and ferodo DS3000 pads, very fast braking.

However, to me it sounds like it could be the ABS execessively damping the brakes at low speed. Maybe a the sensors need checking, but thats only an idea.
 

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My last car was a 1990 Turbo and the brakes felt far sharper than the those on the current 1996 2.3 Turbo. The brakes are the same but the older car used the ATE ABS system whereas the newer one has a Bosch ABS. I feel that it is something to do with the hydraulic pressures acheived with the different systems.
 

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You could risk being scientific about this!

Take the car to 100 km/h, brake hard on a good road surface, measure the distance to stop, and the time it takes to do so. Compare with other SAABs and the company data. I don't remember the exact figures , but 35m and 3.4 seconds spring to mind.

My wife complains of my '93 9000CD's soft brakes, and indeed they feel soft, but in reality I've had no difficulty pulling up at a minor emergency or three!

I'd be surprised if the Swedes compromised on brakes. They do have the lowest road mortality figures that I've seen (in order of 3/100 000 cars/annum).

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A few thoughts on my Aero's brakes
You probably go faster than 'normal' cars with normal brakes, I have had quite a few heart stopping moments over the years.
My Aero's brakes were probably the best available 160,000 miles ago
9000's are relatively big and heavy, the tyres have a lot to do (hence limit brakes).
My brakes also feel powerful at speed, but could be better at 5 to 10 mph.
They are better than my wife's CSE
I find you need to replace pads & discs very frequentley as they don't last long.
 

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Similar comments.... my 9000Carlsson (G) has brakes that are not sharp but I got it like that. I always supposed it has aftermarket pads.
Aren't Kevlar pads ('Green Stuff' is a makers type I think) not only better but also don't give much dust? I might get these if only to cut down on cleaning those cross-spokies
 

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I was told this aswell, does anyone have experience of these ?.

The main problem apart from being more expensive is getting old of the pads made of pure green(sorry), i was told it was a 2 month wait as the manufacturer EBC only makes so many at a time
 

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My 93 CSE runs on standard discs and green stuff pads (front only). To be honest, they didn't make a great difference when I fitted them and the car still feels a little under servoed.If you give the pedal a big shove at speed, the brakes are actually very good, but as you say, it's the slower speeds that seem to let it down. The pads are now 10,000 miles old (well worn) and I'm thinking of changing them along with the discs (ANY RECOMMENDATIONS?) as judder seems to have set in this week. I'd say, roughly, they felt 5% better than the standard fit but with new discs, who knows.
 

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Since doing the Abbott track day at Goodwood a few days ago, the question of brakes has been at the front of my mind.
Judder set in after just one spirited lap and certainly prevented full enjoyment of the day.
The discs are one year and 10000 gentle miles old along with the pads.
I'm now looking at conversions to four pot calipers and larger discs. Any suggestions at a sensible price??
So far the lowest seen is around £550, but I've not spoken to anyone specifically.
 

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Looking for something to give a softer pedal and more feel to the brakes I fitted Brembo (undrilled) front discs together with Ferodo DS3000(VERY EXPENSIVE)pads to the front only of my 9000 2.3T.at 118,000 miles. At 120,450 miles I replaced the Ferodo with EBC powerstop GREEN kevlar pads. I thought it seemed like a good idea while I could still find my X spoke alloys under the black dust and before they had been completely eaten away(I've got better things to do than spend my life cleaning car wheels).In addition I had started to hear the squealing,not to mention my wife's complaining,in my sleep and from cold the pedal had the feel of a house brick. When I removed the pads(in the nick of time) there was very noticeable and I thought excessive scoring to the discs. I would add that they had been bedded in according to supplier's instructions. I've been more than happy with the performance of the Powerstop pads and I find they give a softer pedal than either the Ferodo or Saab originals. I also think that the Saab (my third so they must be doing something right ) is underservoed and the brakes normally have a wooden feel and are sluggish when stopping from low speeds. The green pads have been on the car now for 5,000 miles (inc.2,000 miles at high(ish) speeds across France).They work from cold,there's NO DUST and they still inspire confidence,though it will be interesting to see how long they last.In short I'd reccommend them.
Mind you,when I want to drive a car with REALLY GOOD BRAKES I use my old Citroen CX. Sorry about that,I'm off now to wash my mouth out!!!
 

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for what its worth,i think this is the way saab brakes are. my 9000s is exact. the same/brill. at speed,not so good when pulling up to junction at low speed/maybe we have to remember this is a heavy car and brake earlier/be firmer on the pedal, but i do agree it is quite disconcerting[god i wish i knew what that meant]
 

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I agree with parts of both snosrap and zeppelin's [and others]comments.

Some manufacturers choose or require a pad that works best beween two temperatures. It seems to me that the saab specified pads and some aftermarket ones work best at higher temperatures which mean they work best when braking from higher speeds.

if you want to have a better 'bite' from braking at slower speeds, it is simply a matter of changing to a different pad. Cant advise on the best one. Look at others' postings but do remember that if they work best at slow speeds, this maybe to the detriment of high temperature braking where fade may occur earlier.

I will look forward to learning from the others since my pads ar wick at slow speeds and servo strength seems less than brill.
 

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I've just taken the economy option and fitted new discs and pads at the front from eurocar parts. The manufacturer of the discs and pads is Textar (never heared of them). The brakes are now properly bedded in and to be honest, are the best they have ever felt, even at low speed. Bite at high speed is great as well and seem to require less pedal effort than ever. Best 80 odd quid I've spent on the old thing.
 

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I have always felt that the brakes on my 9000 CSE 2.3 turbo could have been better. I too have had pad and discs replaced, ok to standard spec, but I feel that there is not enough assistance. Think I was spoilt by my Old 405 Mi16. One gentle touch on the brake pedal and the car would stop on a sixpence (or euro, lol)
 
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