BEATEN BY A NOVA!!!!
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Sadly the performance possibilities for your n/a engine are nowhere near as broad as those of the turbocharged engines.
There are a few things you could try, though, which might release a few extra bhp (but nothing earth-shattering I'm afraid)
- Replace your air filter with a freer-flowing one (JR or similar), or go for a full-on induction kit
- Ditto your exhaust - replace this with something a bit bigger to help the engine 'breathe'
- Fill up with Super Unleaded / Optimax or somesuch
- Practise 'launching'
Then you're into major internal stuff - porting, polishing, lightening, balancing and the like. Big £££, though. If you're serious about tuning a n/a engine, talk to Abbott Racing. They've probably the most experience, having raced a n/a GM900 for several years; there's some info on their website. They might also be able to do something with your electronics for a bit more
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. I've driven a tuned 2.3i GM900 of theirs that certainly wasn't slow.
Bottom line, though, is that the 2.0i is never going to set the world on fire, and your 'vert is a comparatively heavy car. So just put the roof down, crank up the Miles Davis, and next time the Nova boys pull alongside let 'em go while you bask in your aura of stylish superiority
Cheers
James
PS And please don't capitalise your post titles - pet hate of mine
There are a few things you could try, though, which might release a few extra bhp (but nothing earth-shattering I'm afraid)
- Replace your air filter with a freer-flowing one (JR or similar), or go for a full-on induction kit
- Ditto your exhaust - replace this with something a bit bigger to help the engine 'breathe'
- Fill up with Super Unleaded / Optimax or somesuch
- Practise 'launching'
Then you're into major internal stuff - porting, polishing, lightening, balancing and the like. Big £££, though. If you're serious about tuning a n/a engine, talk to Abbott Racing. They've probably the most experience, having raced a n/a GM900 for several years; there's some info on their website. They might also be able to do something with your electronics for a bit more
Bottom line, though, is that the 2.0i is never going to set the world on fire, and your 'vert is a comparatively heavy car. So just put the roof down, crank up the Miles Davis, and next time the Nova boys pull alongside let 'em go while you bask in your aura of stylish superiority
Cheers
James
PS And please don't capitalise your post titles - pet hate of mine
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Could also add Nitrous Oxide to the list. But best to just let the boys in their Nova have their fun.
If you were in the states I'd tell you to send em my way. I'll show em what a GM900's chassis can do in a straight line with the right kind of motor.
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And if this is the kind of Nova we have over here, I'll make em look slow through the corners too, in either of my Saabs.
IMHO for the same money as a 2.0i you could probably get a slightly older C900, either turbo or N/A, and while not the fastest on the straights, more than an equal for many cars through some twisty bits.
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My N/A C900 used to regularly scare the pants of many "faster" cars through the canyon. T'was quite fun!
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If you were in the states I'd tell you to send em my way. I'll show em what a GM900's chassis can do in a straight line with the right kind of motor.
And if this is the kind of Nova we have over here, I'll make em look slow through the corners too, in either of my Saabs.
IMHO for the same money as a 2.0i you could probably get a slightly older C900, either turbo or N/A, and while not the fastest on the straights, more than an equal for many cars through some twisty bits.
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Our Nova could have anything from an inline six (slooow) all the way to a 500 hp 454 ... might wanna avoid that lump too.
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O'er here in the states, strange things like that often go fast ...
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Ther is a nova around these parts with a ex formula 3 engine in it ..you really do not want to take it on ..at 500 hp/ton
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nothing much ccan touch it
I tried and failed
it looks like a white nova spin ..no go faster body kit or huuge wheels
you have been warned !!
nothing much ccan touch it
I tried and failed
it looks like a white nova spin ..no go faster body kit or huuge wheels
you have been warned !!
Thats madness ylee, Im sure if you got the weight down on your rocket you could give them a better run for their money.
Its amazing what a bit of weight reduction can do, I remember Jermey Clarkson doing a test with a jag xjs and they knocked 4 seconds off the 0-60 time from around 12 secs to 8.
I wonder has anyone tried anything like this on a saab just too see?
Its amazing what a bit of weight reduction can do, I remember Jermey Clarkson doing a test with a jag xjs and they knocked 4 seconds off the 0-60 time from around 12 secs to 8.
I wonder has anyone tried anything like this on a saab just too see?
thanks guys/girls, this topic has raised my spirits. like the abbot exhaust on the nova as for my vert, i loved the one about the roof down etc. ive got an abbott exhaust so at least mines sounds the real deal
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best get my pipe and slippers out then. sorry for putting the capitals in everyone
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With 200+ BHp and 233+ torque i hate it when i get burned by these chav scum too
But alas, its going to happen, the c900 and most other saabs were never quater mile cars!
So i dont take em on, never hammer my old girl anyhow much before 50 or 3rd/4th gear.
I get my kicks from letting a 530/ A6 2.7/ porsche boxster sit on my ass for a bit until we get down the slip road and out onto the motorway!
As he checks his mirror (or indeed she checks her mirror on occassion!) I leave it in fourth at 50mph, floor the power, read 1.2 Bar, change gear into 5th at 90 ish and completeyly dismiss them before they have time for there self correcting acoustic radio has time to turn itself up.
Pop upto 110 ish then settle back down to around 95! If they wanna pass me at over 100 then go for it. Most just tuck back in behind and take the hint. Im sat there knowing ive played me trump card and if they wanted too they would loose me top end for sure! Ive just given the best ive got, but they dont know that
At the end of the day you cant loose, if you do, well you've an old (13 years) car and they've a straight out of the box £30K monster. If you pull it off, you try and keep the big grin in line.
I think the abbott twin exhaust helps to persuade em that they are not dealing with some nancy boy.
Lesson is, leave the ring road racers alone, and take on the stuff your not supposed to beat rather than the stuff you think you will. The only shocks then will be theres when you beat em
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But alas, its going to happen, the c900 and most other saabs were never quater mile cars!
So i dont take em on, never hammer my old girl anyhow much before 50 or 3rd/4th gear.
I get my kicks from letting a 530/ A6 2.7/ porsche boxster sit on my ass for a bit until we get down the slip road and out onto the motorway!
As he checks his mirror (or indeed she checks her mirror on occassion!) I leave it in fourth at 50mph, floor the power, read 1.2 Bar, change gear into 5th at 90 ish and completeyly dismiss them before they have time for there self correcting acoustic radio has time to turn itself up.
Pop upto 110 ish then settle back down to around 95! If they wanna pass me at over 100 then go for it. Most just tuck back in behind and take the hint. Im sat there knowing ive played me trump card and if they wanted too they would loose me top end for sure! Ive just given the best ive got, but they dont know that
At the end of the day you cant loose, if you do, well you've an old (13 years) car and they've a straight out of the box £30K monster. If you pull it off, you try and keep the big grin in line.
I think the abbott twin exhaust helps to persuade em that they are not dealing with some nancy boy.
Lesson is, leave the ring road racers alone, and take on the stuff your not supposed to beat rather than the stuff you think you will. The only shocks then will be theres when you beat em
i upset an audi TT the other week on the way to portsmouth on the A3.....there is a long uphill stretch just past petersfield, i had a 50mph merchant in front whilst overtaking a couple of trucks and the bloke in the audi screamed up behind me with full beam on and sat 4ft from my rear bumper...imagine his surprise when i dropped it into 3rd (once the carin front had moved over)to about 100mph then str8 into 5th then just eased off...left him in no mans land... he did go past me once i had eased off but i think i may have upset him slightly ...i love this hirsch kit....and before anyone asks, yes it was the single exhaust baby version, but i still enjoyed putting him in his place.
just as an aside, there used to be a guy near me that had a reliant kitten...had pinto powered [expletive deleted] written on the back, and i did hear he had fitted nitrus too...one to avoid me thinks...all that power and weighs the same as a j cloth
just as an aside, there used to be a guy near me that had a reliant kitten...had pinto powered [expletive deleted] written on the back, and i did hear he had fitted nitrus too...one to avoid me thinks...all that power and weighs the same as a j cloth
i changed the "dizzy" ( forgive me but is that slang for distributer cap/housing? ) last service, spark plugs getting changed this summer at the next service. never thought about the rotor arm though. cheers. this topic has had me pi55in myself laughing with all the funny stories, keep up the good work everyone. will the JR filter make much difference? thanks again
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Chenks,
To be honest with you, give it up. If I were you I would save every penny to buy a NG900 or 9-3 2.0lpt ot fpt.
Altough the cars look almost the same than n/a, you can do a lot with them (reaching 200bhp is easy and doesn't cost a lot). Then it is a wolf in the sheep clothes. At the moment it looks like you have a sheep in the wolf clothes...
2.0 n/a NG900 is a grandmother's car...
To be honest with you, give it up. If I were you I would save every penny to buy a NG900 or 9-3 2.0lpt ot fpt.
Altough the cars look almost the same than n/a, you can do a lot with them (reaching 200bhp is easy and doesn't cost a lot). Then it is a wolf in the sheep clothes. At the moment it looks like you have a sheep in the wolf clothes...
2.0 n/a NG900 is a grandmother's car...
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Chenks
It's worth checking the rotar arm. Mine has only done 49k on a 96 P and it was quite pitted. It pulls much stronger now. I have a JR filter which I'll 'install' in the next day or two. I also have NGK iridium plugs (BCP 5EV-X) whick I 'feel' make a difference.
BTW, Adam is lucky he's in Holland and not next to me at the traffic lights ....grandmother's car...... . He knows my Abbott wheel trims add an extra 150 bhp
Seriously though, if you want more poke..best get a 9-3 LPT or T.
Cheers
Al
It's worth checking the rotar arm. Mine has only done 49k on a 96 P and it was quite pitted. It pulls much stronger now. I have a JR filter which I'll 'install' in the next day or two. I also have NGK iridium plugs (BCP 5EV-X) whick I 'feel' make a difference.
BTW, Adam is lucky he's in Holland and not next to me at the traffic lights ....grandmother's car...... . He knows my Abbott wheel trims add an extra 150 bhp
Seriously though, if you want more poke..best get a 9-3 LPT or T.
Cheers
Al
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