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I have finally got around to creating this post,

Right ok where to start really -

I brought a 9-3 uneducated to then find out about the appalling audio setup you can actually get with a car such as this,

I had the 4 speaker setup with ICM1 unit up front and nothing else.



The audio upgrade began almost immediately when I brought the car in 2009 and has only been completed about 3 months ago due to time, money and experiments with the setup and this is the only way to do it properly well if you like decent bass.

Upgraded to ICM2
Added Aux in
Amp1 installed with the factory door speakers and centre (I resorted to this because for 1 up front 2 x 3.5" were never ever going to keep up with the rear and secondly to tap off the amp 1 output to give decent bass signals to the sub or subs).
2 x 3.5" replaced with - jl audio c2 350x well worth every penny, clarity is evident not over factory as I cannot even remember those I had JBL ones in the about £30 for the pair and I know they were miles better than factory and the JL's still stand in a league of their own.

Power cable from front to back is zero gauge which runs straight into a 20 Farad Lanzar opticap 200 to feed off to the sub amp
4 gauge front to back for 2 channel amp no power cap on this line as the power is minimal
Amps and Cap have remote on at ignition tapped from the rear fuse box

under the passenger seat




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Having problems with embedding images so going to just paste links to the photos.

Cache Cloc+D Line driver/Line out converter is connected under passenger seat tapping the power/remote/neg/audio output from amp1, RCA leads fed under the carpet, under rear seats to the sub (yes this was a pain in the backside to do yet paid off as everything is hidden which was the idea looking in the car everything is standard until you open the boot).

In the rear is as follows -

4" piles of $hite removed and replaced with Vibe black air component tweeters with inline crossovers
Black air 6x9's in rear shelf next to tweeters
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Vibe Black box 2 2channel amp mounted upside down in the centre of the rear shelf
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You can see the Boss Line out converter next to the amp which has been soldered to the existing rear out put and fed as a high level input into the amp which powers both the 6x9's and the tweeters.

This is the power cap mounted on the rear seat -
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I took this pic to show what it looks like behind the rear seats and to see the 0 gauge connecting to the cap -
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You can also see the amp on the rear of the sub which is connected to the Cloc+D under Passenger seat and you can also see the Vibe fast plug so the sub can be removed in seconds to give back a full boot should it be needed.

These beauties give a decent amount of bass to say the least -
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Active dual 12 inch subs which also have a remote adjust up front under the drivers side dash to adjust the crossover and gain of the sub which is very handy as some songs require that extra bit of bass.

On the head unit up front bass is set to zero and brought back through the crossover to the sub so none of the speakers distort even on full volume which you couldn't listen to in the car unless you wish to go deaf, I took the car to an event and had the boot open windows down etc and the sound was amazing from the outside I had to even question a friend on where it was coming from stunned to find it being my car.

Please let me know what you think of the install,

Should anyone wish to recruit myself to help with their install PM me bare in mind distance as I am Hertfordshire based.
 

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I have the same subs powered by a slick a7 amp, I too bought a capacitor a 3.5 farad one. Turns out, they are useless, have a read up about them.

And I can confirm, when I had the twin 12 1600w subs in the back of my saxo it made it almost impossible to breathe!
 

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The boots in the 9-3 are slightly more sound proofed than that of a Saxo where the boot is in the car. The bass with the dual 12 is decent and dependant on how it is set over powering but way back there it doesn't make it unbareable, I had to resort in double as 1 wasn't enough with the crap signal it was getting but once fed off amp1 1 sub was more than enough but I had already brought the dual 12 so they were going in regardless.
 

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The boots in the 9-3 are slightly more sound proofed than that of a Saxo where the boot is in the car. The bass with the dual 12 is decent and dependant on how it is set over powering but way back there it doesn't make it unbareable, I had to resort in double as 1 wasn't enough with the crap signal it was getting but once fed off amp1 1 sub was more than enough but I had already brought the dual 12 so they were going in regardless.
I didn't mean the subs were crap! I know they are good, I still have my two in the loft for when the baby out grows a push chair!

I meant the capacitor, and not just your one, all capacitors for amps/subs in cars are pointless.

When the bass drops, the capacitor reacts and powers the amp, and then the battery reacts and powers the cap and the alt then has to work even harder to charge the battery and the cap. I would replace the cap with an uprated alt so it's not under as much strain.
 

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Everything is working perfectly and I have no intention of changing it, the headlights do not dim no issues with loss of power and besides I am looking to sell the car so the lot will be coming out and going on fleabay.
 

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How are you finding that lanzar amp, as a company they have come out with some poor crap to say the least, although they do make some ok shallow mount speakers.

What i really want to ask is how is the noise?

Do the speakers pic up noise from engine/alternator power cable from battery etc?
 

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The lanzar amp is not actually an amp it is a capacitor, and it seems to be working perfectly, very well built with quite a decent chrome finish as to expect with a £200+ power cap.

No noise at all I have tried to keep the audio leads away from any power leads to avoid the interference where ever possible.
 

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despite having lots of goodies in there you've still kept it all neat and hidden. You're tempting me to upgrade to dual 12" subs, the one I have seems to be doing the job its just I never had push it hard in my fiesta.

what kind of cars you looking at?
 

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That was the look I was going for stock appearance well until you open the boot but theiving scrotes won't see a nice head unit etc when they look through the window.

I have given it some thought and due to the amount spent on mine and the time taken etc I don't think I am going to let it go just yet maybe in a couple of years but I was looking at a BMW 320D E90 M sport coupe or saloon.

I had a single 12 before but it didn't provide enough bass until I gave it the correct signal and by this point I had already brought the dual 12" so dual it is lol.
 

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Deano, i need to have a chat about connecting an ipod with a wired conection. I seem to remember you posted up a link to the kit, is there a 'how to' guide for audio-cretins (me) or at least one with pics and large writing???
 

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sorry i know this is an old thread but i have the aux option but not the cable in the arm rest console. lookin at the original and the cheaper otion, the original has the proper female clip connector to fit in the console whereas the other non genuine version has just the male aux connection.
 
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