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Spent the weekend taking my Dad around looking for a new Saab, after their 1990 900SE auto was written off last week in an argument with 2 cars and a skip......er, don't ask!
Anyway, found a nice '95 model CSE 3.0V6 auto with all the toys, elec.mem.seats, cruise, TCS, ABS, 2xSRS, front centre armrest, etc.etc. It must be one of the first ones as it was registered 3 Jan 95, but it's a one private owner from new, 96K miles, with supplying dealer fsh, and the owner had just recently aquired a brand new 9-5 3.0V6 in the same white with sand interior combination(obvisouly likes white Saab's!). I drove it and it drove really well, and apart from not a lot of heat coming from the seats, even on highest setting(typical!), everything else worked, and it seemed nice and tight with no squeeks and rattles etc.
I was suprised that the V6 seemed a bit unresponsive and almost gutless at low engine speeds, although once rolling, stomping on the loud pedal had it picking up it's tail and getting on with it with ease!!!
Is this representative of these engines or does something sound amiss?
Can't find much about these engines other than they are based on the GM/Opel/Vauxhall Omega lumps, but do they run with the Saab electronics, APC, Trionic or whatever?? I know the cambelt needs to be changed at the designated service intervals...anything else to watch out for?
My parents are both long retired and only do about 1500 miles or less, a year now, so, hopefully, this should easily see them to the end of their driving.
 

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Not so familiar with the V6, although would just say it's a wacking big & thursty engine for such low milages.

I would expect the torque to come in at higher revs than on the 2.0l & 2.3l turbo engines (LPT & HPT) - which again is not ideal for town work and short journeys.

Depreciation is the worst on the 3L V6, too.
 

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I have'nt got one but you might want to check the fuel consumption as i understand they use quite a lot more than the 4 cyl, then again if they only do 1500m/year it won't make that mich difference.
 

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Yup, I imagine the fuel consumption (and insurance!)will be higher, but, doing such little milage now, my Dad was not concerned about this. However, I have to say, when driving it, I checked the average fuel consumption with the info button and it said 28.2mpg which somewhat surprised me!

I did try and persuade him, what they really needed was a 2.0 LPT auto, but, when he found out it had a turbo, he just wasn't interested. I'm afraid, not amount of explaination from me about the LPT concept, would budge him on this matter.
 

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>> the average fuel consumption with the info button and it said 28.2mpg which somewhat surprised me!

This will depend on when it was last reset, and whether car was being cruised at 60mph or in a town. I would expect mpg to average 28 or even higher when cruising at 50 to 60mph.

I can understand an older persons aversion to a Turbo, as they are generally expensive to replace, and most turbos (except Saab!) were liable to blow sooner, if not later. However, oil quality has much improved, which also contributes to the longevity of Saab Turbo's.
 

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Only things I know about the V6 are what my regular mechanic told me: don't buy one! Big, thirsty, complicated, noisy, unresponsive and you'll be lucky to find a technician who'll work on it. Oh and as you may have noticed they depreciate v. fast. I know this sounds neg and maybe there are dozens of happy people out there but I would go for a 2.3LPT.
 

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Well, the V6 was added to satisfy the American "I won't buy anything with less than 6 cylinders" market wasn't it? That said, there are far fewer V6's around than Aero's so although they're depreciating now they may be collectable in future.

I've never seen under the bonnet on a V6 9000 but to be honest, the 4-cyl B2xx's take up a helluva lot of room as it is! So the V6 must be a tight squeeze, hence some tecchies hate working on them. Just supposition here ... tell me if I'm wrong.
 

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aeropilot, looks like no-one knows nuffink.
The one I am getting is '95 with 95k, 2 owners, auto CSE V6 3litre. I've not seen the car and am not sure what is standard on this model.
Can you please give me any information/ advice?
 

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aeropilot, would you say £4k is a fair price to pay for the one I am interested in? I have to assume, in absence of anything to the contrary, that it is all good. The owner claims it is. It is a long way away and we are going to meet halfway, when I will have to decide yeah or neh.
 

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aeropilot, would you say £4k is a fair price to pay for the one I am interested in? I have to assume, in absence of anything to the contrary, that it is all good. The owner claims it is. It is a long way away and we are going to meet halfway, when I will have to decide yeah or neh.
 

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Quarryeff,
Sorry for delay in answering, 'my' computer is at work, so I am not 'online' at weekends.
The one my Dad has just bought, I'm picking it up for him at the end of this week, imust be one of the first ones made at the very end of '94, registered on 03/01/95. It's a one private owner car, and is well 'specced', but I don't know what was optional or standard. TCS was standard on the V6's, obviously thinks like ACC, 2xSRS and the other CSE fittments. It's done 96K miles with fSsh with original supplying dealer. He's paid £5.5K, but that's from an independent Saab specialist, and will include full service including it's due cambelt change and 12 months tax.
I agree that the V6 is noisier than the 4 cyl turbos, but it is that nice V cyl config. burble !!! The below 2500 rpm torque did not seem on a par with the 4 cyl turbos, but I can only compare with my Aero, which is probably a bit unfair in that respect!
The insurance is the same as the Aero though at Grp.17 !!
 
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