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I added a new car to the microcat36 stable today, a 9000 3.0 v6 Griffin, in Ruby red metallic with Rocky black leather.
It has full service history, with the timing belt + tensioners done, drive belts, disks and pads + spring/shocks,and the auto fluid and filter changed at the same time.
Now some questions, it has tcs
, is this as bad on the V6 as i think the V6 has a separate electronic throttle, so i took the fuse out took it for a run, no change, no limp home mode,no tcs, so does this mean that if it does wrong it will not be as bad as on the turbo.
Also some of the leather on the armrests/ side bolsters ect are scuffed can i get a dye to recolour this or am i stuck with this (pal told me to use shoe polish)
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Only thing it is missing is a rear spoiler and wood for the window switches, Ebay here i come, but its got the wood rear ashtray so i cant compain.
Any enough of my haverings, but im so happy with it
 

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As Andrew says, the V6 system is different. Because it doesn't work the main throttle plate electronically, there aren't the safety issues if a fault occurs so there is no "panic" limp-home mode at the slightest sign of trouble. As far as I know, and this agrees with the outcome of your experiment, if something goes wrong the worst that can happen is that you lose the TCS function and have to be sensible with the throttle.
 

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Bill, you are right, i tried it without the fuse in the wet and mega wheel spin so back in with the fuse and hope the tcs keeps on working properly, now all i have to worry about is the cam belt and the auto box behaving themselves
, just behave myself and keep any
till after im above 40mph, not easy with my lead foot.
 

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Originally posted by microcat36:
[qb]now all i have to worry about is the cam belt and the auto box behaving themselves[/qb][/b]
If it were mine, I'd do the cambelt just for peace of mind.

Regarding the auto box, the torque curve of the V6 is much more transmission-friendly than the mega-torque of the 2.3 full-pressure turbos so the gearbox will have had an easier life than many.

I had one of these as a courtesy car and really liked it. Didn't think I would. Didn't like putting petrol in it, though


Mind you, I spent a lot of time crawling in traffic that day.
 

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Bill , the car got a new engine at 68,000, as the Saab garage who did a cambelt change and then blew the engine up on the test run
, the invoice is for £6000
for a new engine and gearbox and the cambelt was done at 102,000 at a saab main dealer and has only done 18,000 miles since, this is one of the main reasons i bought the car as the engine and gear are so new.
Do you have any idea what kind of performance the griffin does as i have never seen a road test for one, and it feels as fast as my old turbo and a lot faster than my cse, but with 85 bhp more than the cse thats not surprising.
 

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The only figures i have seen are from an old What Car which were 0-60 7.6 and 143 top speed,the petrol consumption has been from 32 on a the motorway to 18 in town and an average of 26.8 so its not as bad as i thought, but im taking it easy when pulling away so i will wait until the novelty has worn of to see what the real average is going to be.
the best thing about it is it is so quiet and smooth.
 

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Have had a good rake over the car today, boy is this going into a garage to get anything done to it
, i thought i would see what kind of condition the air filter was in, i could barely see it never mind work out how to get it out, this is one big lump of an engine compaired to the 16v.
Does anyone now of a manual for the engine as obviously haynes (spit), does not cover the V6.
 

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I checked with my local saab specialist to day to find out how much it would be to change the timing belt and all three tension pulleys and he has quoted £120 all in , going to ask the vauxhall dealer for a quote too, when you see how little space there is on my car, i don't think this is bad at all.
 
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