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Re my “1” sway bar posting”
Bill, Interesting comments too, thanks. To re-start this thread, on from increasing sway bar diameter to decreasing body roll. My aim is to ultimately improve the ‘feel’ of the Aero whilst cornering, improve the feel, and speed of driving around bends. I guess this is my ultimate goal, as I think it should feel more ‘chuckable’ and more positive whilst under reasonable cornering forces.
If I can improve the handling without spending what could be wasted money on sway bars, so be it, so I’d like to pursue firstly improving the rear anti- roll bar’s stiffness as it stands. This appears to be a common point I’ve read about a few times, as well as the comments in my previous thread. So making sure all it’s connections have poly is a start, and then removing some of the fronts bars poly bushes and replacing with original rubber until it feels as neutral as I can get it. I did once have the car corning better than expected when I fitted very worn tyres on the front from the rear, it felt like it was driving around bends, with steering much quicker, I’ve never managed to replicate that, think the tyres were NCTs. Tracking was correct too, any thoughts?
I’d also be interested in comments about dampers, as I cannot see how they can help limit body roll, there are no springs or the like in them, they just restrict the speed of travel, is that not correct? Uprated springs on the other hand I can see limiting the amount of body roll, but not very much as the offside will compress less but the near side must still be free to expand to it’s limit, albeit shorter as it’s uncompressed state is.
I also drive (the Wife’s car) a Porsche 944 in standard form, and this corners with little fuss, and neutral handling, and feels very manoeuvrable. Before you think I shouldn’t compare cars, it is basically the same weight and has 4 wheels, but it does have better weight distribution and rear wheel drive. But with balancing roll bar sizes and/or amount their flex I should be able to get somewhere near it. Out of interest, if anyone is still reading at this point, it has 24mm front and 14mm rear. I still prefer the Saab though.
Be interested in any more thoughts, and if and when I reach there, I will post the information for any other future Saab owner who wants to improve their 9000.
Cheers…
Re my “1” sway bar posting”
Bill, Interesting comments too, thanks. To re-start this thread, on from increasing sway bar diameter to decreasing body roll. My aim is to ultimately improve the ‘feel’ of the Aero whilst cornering, improve the feel, and speed of driving around bends. I guess this is my ultimate goal, as I think it should feel more ‘chuckable’ and more positive whilst under reasonable cornering forces.
If I can improve the handling without spending what could be wasted money on sway bars, so be it, so I’d like to pursue firstly improving the rear anti- roll bar’s stiffness as it stands. This appears to be a common point I’ve read about a few times, as well as the comments in my previous thread. So making sure all it’s connections have poly is a start, and then removing some of the fronts bars poly bushes and replacing with original rubber until it feels as neutral as I can get it. I did once have the car corning better than expected when I fitted very worn tyres on the front from the rear, it felt like it was driving around bends, with steering much quicker, I’ve never managed to replicate that, think the tyres were NCTs. Tracking was correct too, any thoughts?
I’d also be interested in comments about dampers, as I cannot see how they can help limit body roll, there are no springs or the like in them, they just restrict the speed of travel, is that not correct? Uprated springs on the other hand I can see limiting the amount of body roll, but not very much as the offside will compress less but the near side must still be free to expand to it’s limit, albeit shorter as it’s uncompressed state is.
I also drive (the Wife’s car) a Porsche 944 in standard form, and this corners with little fuss, and neutral handling, and feels very manoeuvrable. Before you think I shouldn’t compare cars, it is basically the same weight and has 4 wheels, but it does have better weight distribution and rear wheel drive. But with balancing roll bar sizes and/or amount their flex I should be able to get somewhere near it. Out of interest, if anyone is still reading at this point, it has 24mm front and 14mm rear. I still prefer the Saab though.
Be interested in any more thoughts, and if and when I reach there, I will post the information for any other future Saab owner who wants to improve their 9000.
Cheers…