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OK- thanks for all comments in the previous post.

So we seem to have a split in opinion- basically around the risk that the AutoBox is not designed to handle the torque an ECU upgrade can increase, yet there are those who have upgraded without issues. As Billj( nice website BTW) states- an upgrade is likely to hunt out other problems.

Any thoughts to the near impossible question of how long a well serviced Autobox should last?
If the upgrade shortened its life - would you think one would last say, 130k? I cant deny that i wouldnt use the extra power if (when?) i upgraded.

I am thinking of keeping this car for another few years, and accept that it may cost more to maintain as the miles pile on. But spending money on an upgrade and future servicing would still be less than the outlay for a newer Saab and its depreciation ( which is what makes them affordable as we all know!).

So who thinks it is worth the risk ? Or shall i rephrase that as " How much is an Autobox rebuild ?"

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I believe that a 9000 autobox total rebuild is about £1000 - £1200 from a reputable gearbox specialist.

As far as 'box life expectancy goes, you are in a statistical nightmare I'm afraid. I know two people, one drives a Mercedes 300 and the other a 320. Both essentially similar in basic mechanical configuration. One has 235,000 miles on the original 'box without a hint of a problem, the other has just paid for a complete rebuild at 74,000 miles. Both are apparently "within the reasonable operating life", which seems to be translated as "don't try and make a late warranty claim at 74,000 miles, we know it's cr4p, but tough"

Like all things with buying a decent (expensive) car cheap, if something big goes wrong you have to take it on the chin and remember how little you paid for the car, and be grateful for the fact that you are not driving a "Bayerische MistWagen" as my brother in law calls them. I am reliably informed that this translates as "Bavarian Dung Car". I am sure that's what he said....
 

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The Merc. auto boxes appear to have a good reputation for longevity. The 9000 auto boxes less so. I know a goodly number of 2.3T auto boxes appear to keel over at around 100K miles. However, I also know of ones that are still going strong after 200K miles. I don't know whether this is down to regular maintenance, driving style or what.
 

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A well serviced auto box will last ages - my old man's 2.3T Griffin is on 215,000!!! and never misses a beat However and its a big however my 2.3T Griffin box oil pump went at 150,000. I had new box from Sweden through a main dealer which is the nuts but cost £1,800. I was quoted £1,100 for a box re-build.
 

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Well looks like the plan for an upgrade has been scuppered by Insurance- a cannot seem to get a quote for a modified car and get covered for Business use at the same time

Have rung around a few brokers and got a get quote for personal use - only £38/year more than what i was paying anyway for an unmodified car.

Any insurance brokers surf this Bulletin board perchance ?? ;o)
 

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Try Adrian Flux or Greenlight (sorry don't have numbers to hand) - both are modified car friendly. My premium went up from £540 to £620ish when the bhp of my 9-3 went up from 154 to 230ish - not too bad IMO, although I now wish I'd kept my gob shut about the ECU upgrade!
 

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Originally posted by TheFox:
[qb]cannot seem to get a quote for a modified car and get covered for Business use at the same time[/qb][/b]
TheFox, I'm covered for a modified car including occasional business use (2000 miles/year). Don't know whether that's anything like the business cover you need.
I went through Chris Knott Insurance, who advertise in the Saab Owners Club magazine. I was paying £650 to Direct line for my Aero when just declaring the 3" exhaust and am now paying £650 to Chris Knott including the Maptun upgrade (275hp declared, which is what Maptun claim) and suspension upgrade. I'm a member of the SOC and I also have a second car insured through CK. I don't know whether either of these makes any difference to the premium.

They beat Greenlight and Adrian Flux in my case, but it's worth checking with them too.
 
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