9-3 audio install help

Hi Jon,

First of all thanks for the new thread. There really isn't a CD player op the dash,
I will try to attach a picture.

Secondly, the wire that I soldered on the old and new speakers are parallel. And as you said, the new total resistance of the system will now be 1/Rv = ∑ (1/Rn) = 1/ R1 + 1 / R2 gives in my situation:
1/Rv= 1/4Ω + 1/4Ω= 0,5 Rv=1/0,5= 2Ω
I will attach a picture of this as well.

Perhaps this is the wrong way to do it, and I assume that you can help me out here. The speakers work fine however.

For my questions of the first post,
-the mid level and overall sound isn't great, this is also related to my AMP1 problem correct? I should see an improvement on replacing that with an original Saab part?

-is it easier to add the amp of the prestige 300 in the left rear and then wire the woofers to this?

-are the premium 150 systems able to communicate with an prestige 300 amp in the back if I try this route? I wonder if the systems are "plug and play" compatible.

Edit2:
Did some research about amplifiers and resistance, what I did by lowering the resistance of the speakers is dangerous if the AMP is not rated for the lower resistance.

WARNING! For people considering to add some 6x9'' on the rear, wiring them in the way that I did on the picture above MAY RESULT IN DAMAGEING YOUR AMP.

Also, I will be changing this because this is not a proper base channel I discovered.

Question, what is the Ohm(Ω) rating of a Saab pioneer speaker? I have tried to research this but I can't seem to find any information on Saab amplifiers.

@Aerojon,

I saw this thread from 09 where you helped someone with a full upgrade to a prestige 300 system from scratch:
http://www.saabscene.com/forum/threads/145278-Audio-upgrade-Amp1-Amp2

Took a look at all the parts required, and looks like the parts required for this:

for 150:

12806042
32000572
32025843

and for 300:

12787154
32000556
are no longer available anywhere...

Am trying to find the individual part numbers of everything included in these "upgrade kits"do you know where I can find such lists?

Alternatives?

Hi everyone,

Discovered that I have the premium 70 system, yes it was quite a disappointment.

Need advice, looking for an upgrade either by adding AMP1 under the seat or a Non-Saab amp and drive the existing system plus adding door and parcel shelf two 6x9" s any links?

Quick question about the Saab stereo system: Do all amplifiers of Saab get the audio signal via the optical channel? Even the premium 70? Or via a different channel?

The reason for this question, is that I found the cable for AMP1 under the driver seat. But there wasn't a optical cable in the plug.(I don't have AMP1, just a cable sticking out the floor)

At this point I would like to add either an original Saab AMP1 under my seat, or add a amp the drive all the sound system from the back.
What would be more cost effective? What can I expect from the sound system for either option?

Could someone please inform me if this has been already discussed in a different thread? I really need more info.

lizzard-t said:

http://www.saabscene.com/forum/threads/212649-Audio-upgrade-time-Sportwagon-06
I don't know how far the op got but he kept updating the thread but now nothing from him
I know I've seen a few pre facelift 9-3 with aftermarket head units plumbed in where the CD player sits . And just run all new cables for speakers and power , and leave the stock HU in place as it seems like a big and prolly can't be done sort of faff .
That's prolly your only way to get a decent sound .
But how much it costs to do and there's the time involved is endless

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Thanks Lizzard-t!

Very useful bit of info, sad he didn't keep updating his progress.. It could have been a complete walk-thru for me

I understand there is no aftermarket replacement for the ICM1 right? this controls some car functions as well if I'm correct, Will however look for a way to amplify.

Is it possible to put an aftermarket amp under the driver seat, using the wires of the cable where normally AMP1 plugs in? in that case, where do I pick up my signal input for that amp? from ICM?

(NOTE, I found the cable for AMP1 under my seat, no Fiber optic cable in that connector???)

Sorry if some of these questions are completely noobish, but I'm trying to get my head around Saab logic and the Optical system.

Thanks for reading, any help is much appreciated!

3 options left the way I see it at this moment, maybe someone can give me their opinion on the best solution.

1. I found this adapter for low and mid levels: http://skyddet.nu/produkt.php?id=4302&meny_id=100 and put a simple 2 channel amp under the driver seat to power the door and shelf speakers. I think this is the cheapest option.

2. Use the above adapter, AND cut+ tap in to the remaining audio cables behind ICM1 and wire these to a multi channel amp and back for better sounding audio.

3. Maybe this is the most beautiful solution, If it works?!! Maybe somebody knows:
Get a car amp that has a optical in, then connect a optical cable from the back of ICM1 to the amp and drive all speakers from this.

Does anyone know what kind of communications are on the Saab O-bus?
If this is only audio, is there a special coding or "digital language" I need to be aware of?

Thanks for reading and helping!

When I make up my mind on the way to approach this I will make a walk through including pictures.

aerojon said:

This..^^^^

the MoST optic LOOP doesn't just do the audio

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The basic Clarion single CD player drive used in the 2004 9-3 among others seems to have audio signal out to EHU, through optical output.
There are two optical connectors on the original CD unit rear, one going in and the other out. While the remaining pins seem to be for power only.

Comparing to PC CD-rom drives from the same era, i remember both analog and digital outputs at the same time was the standard. Though digital signal was optical SPDIF, not MOST.

Then could it be that the extra electronics board next to the CD unit is in fact a analog to MOST converter, with sorts of similar product function to this: https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Opti...0055EBH5S/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8


If there are pins or solder points in there to support analog stereo RCA from other audio sources for direct translation to MOST and EHU, that would be more compelling when doing a CD player upgrade than the optical loopback bypass:




Still pics taken from video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFde9wADjRM