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    Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    And I cant wait. Should get it fitted on or around the 15th August. Had another shot in a stage 1 and decided that the stage 2 was worth the money, going by the power and especially the torque curves.

    Looking forward to getting out on a run with the vx club to see if i can keep up - i was soundly left behind by them last Sunday...

    £2700 well spent I hope...

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    Come back and give us a report on the difference that it makes

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    There's one sitting in my local dealer in The Hague with the 252 upgrade, with auto box... resisting temptation to go for test drive....

    Exhaust looks a bit silly, prefer the standard one..

    Best of luch

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    Where is the dealership? I work in The Hague a week a month...

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    Adrian Smith Saab in Aberdeen did the work on friday afternoon.

    What an amazing difference, the Stage 2 has really totally transformed the car. It's not so much the top-end power but the extra torque in the 2.5-4.5k rev bracket - it really is very, very strong.

    If anyone's considering the Satge 2 but hasn't driven one, you're in the exact situation I was last week. But take my word for it, it's worth every penny!

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    So thats two grand over the cost of a stage 1 - what dyu get for that ?

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    If you do not mind me asking, what has this upgrade added to you insurance premium ?

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    Originally posted by the_don:
    [qb]Where is the dealership? I work in The Hague a week a month... [/qb][/b]
    Actually in Leidschendam nestling in a load of car dealers..

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    Saab in Den Haag

    Ginger cropped chap called Frank, young guy is the IDS rep in the Netherlands. Has been trying to persuade me to buy an upgrade....

    Helpful guys..

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    I paid £2,900 for the chip, intercooler and I think it's just the manifold pipe and back-box. It feels really substantially quicker than the manual stage 1 that I drove (mine is the 5-speed semi-suto).

    I'll admit it's a lot of money but I think I got a good deal on the car when I bought it 6 weeks ago (I paid 20k) so i feel i can justify spending the 3k on the upgrade. There's nothing else in the class available 6 months old for 23k that I would rather have.

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    By the way,

    I spoke to my insurance company and it's an extra £89 a year on my policy.

    Welsh Wizard, i'm in The Hague Thursday and Friday this week but i don't need a test-drive now!

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    it's an extra £89 a year on my policy[/b]


    Can I ask who you are insuring the car with ?

    I want to get the Hirsch upgrade for my tractor, but I'm having trouble finding someone who will insure it for a reasonable extra premium.

    Cheapest so far is Adrian Flux, but it's £200 extra An increase of 50% seems a lot for 25bhp more

    Thanks, Tony.

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    Elephant.

    They were absolute b*stards when claiming on my last car (written off) but they were still the cheapest tquote for my 9-3 by far (i'm talking £500 cheaper than the next best quote) so I'm still with them.

    At the end of the day, i got a decent price for my claim, it just took a long time and was a lot of hassle.

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    OK, cheers for that.

    I've just tried Elephant & although the unmodified quote is slightly better, they want £275 extra for the chip

    Looks like Hirsch is out

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    Re: Hirsch - I've ordered the Stage 2!

    Originally posted by the_don:
    [qb]I paid £2,900 for the chip, intercooler and I think it's just the manifold pipe and back-box. It feels really substantially quicker than the manual stage 1 that I drove (mine is the 5-speed semi-suto).
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    Thats interesting - the Hirsch upgrade is supposed to give a much greater improvement (0-60) on the auto - it somehow alters the shifting/permissable torque. That, for me, (also with sentronic) is why I'd prefer the Hirsch over the BSR. Is there a noticable change in the way it shifts - neck jerking/lack of smoothness? Pity my local dealer (Manchester) won't do any demos

    Still...its bloody pricey...I might be able to afford a stage 1 - but stage 2?...hell.

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