2004 Saab 9-3 Turbo - Variety of Problems and now I'm a Pedestrian
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    2004 Saab 9-3 Turbo - Variety of Problems and now I'm a Pedestrian

    Greetings, this is my first post but I have reviewed this site from time to time since I first started experiencing problems with my Saab back in June. (I like to avoid asking questions that have been previously answered repeatidly.)<BR><BR>I will describe the problems chronologically in case they are inter-related.<BR><BR>Back in June, I was driving my car at around 55 mph when I felt a slight shift as if something wasn't right. When I tried to accelerate I realized I couldn't get the car to speed up. I had the accelerator floored and the speed remained at 55. As I started an incline, the car decelerated to about 45-50 mph and then as I accelerated on the decline it sped up to around 60. Once the road levelled out the car returned to 55. As I got off on the next exit and slowed down to about 30 mph, the engine stalled out and I lost power steering. I coasted to a stop, steering the car with muscle due to the power steering loss. Put the car in park and the car started right back up. <BR>As I started to drive, I realized the acceleration was terrible. It felt as if I was trying to get up to speed with the car in 5th gear. <BR><BR>Over the next couple months I learned to deal with this problem which could be rather dangerous but I lacked the funds to have it repaired. Took it into an Autozone where they read the codes for free and was informed that there were two error codes. <BR><BR>Total Mass-Airflow Sensor Malfunction<BR>MAP Sensor Malfunction<BR><BR>The problems I experienced while driving were periodic terrible acceleration from stop, losing the ability to accelerate past ~55 mph.<BR>If I was driving &gt; 55 mph I'd feel a slight shift and the car would slow down to around 55 mph even with the gas pedal floored. When I slowed down to around 30 mph the car would stall and I'd have to put it in park and restart it. Combined with the terrible acceleration, this proved to be very stressful and dangerous while driving on the highway! Over time I developed a sense as to when the problem would occur and I could ease off the gas and the problem wouldn't occur. If I feathered the gas pedal while driving on the highway I could usually go an hr or so without having the problem. My guess at the time was that it was a problem with the fuel pump. Maybe when the RPMs dropped to a certain level the pump lost pressure and the car put itself into a safety mode until it could be slowed down where it would stall out to protect the engine? <BR><BR>Sometimes when I'd start the car (either cold-start or after a stall) I'd receive codes such as Stability Control Malfunction, Traction Control Malfunction, Gearbox Malfunction. Limited performance, Time for Service, etc.<BR><BR>A month ago I started having problems where the battery would drain very easily. For example after using the reading light for 2 min with the car turned off or leaving the trunk open for a couple min. Strangely I found that some cars couldn't jump mine. I know the jumpers were connected correctly so I don't know what that was all about.<BR><BR>2 wks ago I went to start the car and even when I had restored some charge to the battery (radio would play, interior lights and headlights were on, etc) the car wouldn't start. Instead I had the Steering Wheel Lock Malfunction code and could not turn the ignition key. I thought that maybe the battery was finally incapable of holding a charge (although the car should have still started with the jumpers attached) and replaced the battery. No dice. Still had the same problem. My friend insisted on having the car towed to a friends shop who supposedly worked on Saabs but they were unable to diagnose the problem as they could not read the codes with the key in the off position.<BR><BR>After doing a lot of research (while I wait for my check to come in so I can have it towed to the Saab dealership) I found that suggested causes for the performance issues were possibly a bad fuel pump, bad sensors, bad ignition switch or a bad wheel speed sensor. Suggested causes for the steering wheel lock malfunction were the CIM, the SCL, or the ignition switch. For the traction control and stability control codes&nbsp;people suggested a bad fuel pump or again a bad wheel speed sensor. <BR><BR>I'm wondering if I'm dealing with isolated problems or if they are all inter-related. I saw that there's a recall for certain model fuel pumps so I'm hoping to have that replaced for free. Since both problems potentially point to a bad ignition switch I'm inclined to telling Saab to try replacing that first. Looking at the big picture it seems like I should focus on the ignition switch, fuel pump, and wheel speed sensors first. I was a mechanic for the nuclear power plants on aircraft carriers in the Navy so I have decent mechanical aptitude but I don't have very much experience with auto mechanics.<BR><BR>Does anyone have any feedback on my problems or any personal experience they could offer? I don't have a lot of income at the moment so I'm trying to avoid replacing good parts or throwing money at the car until its fixed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to spending time on these forums as they seem very friendly and informative.<BR><BR>Cheers!

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    Re: 2004 Saab 9-3 Turbo - Variety of Problems and now I'm a Pedestrian

    Probably the most comprehensive first post ever...! It looks like you have a couple of separate problems. The first one to tackle is the non-starting - have you had the battery load-tested? It's not unknown to have a new battery that's duff. Does the car make any clicking noises when you insert the key?

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    Re: 2004 Saab 9-3 Turbo - Variety of Problems and now I'm a Pedestrian

    Sorry to hear the problems you are having but you'll probably find those that can help need to know what engine you have got. Diesel or Petrol? It sounds as if the car is going into limp home mode although I suspect the fault that is causing this is also exacerbating the problem. I would hope it is only one fault as to have a collection of faults causing this is very unfortunate indeed and may be difficult to isolate. As blimpy says, always start with the basic and easy to test faults, rule them out completely before looking further. I had a faulty alternator which caused no end of error messages on the SID as all the systems started shutting down. It's easy to check serviceability of the alternator by testing the voltage accross the battery terminals (assuming you can get the engine runing). You'll be looking for around 14 Volts if it's working. Other than that see if you can get access to a fault code reader - preferably one that will record data as you drive. Mine can be set to start recording when a fault code triggers. (It cost 60 but is often cheeper than relying on garages to start doing this work for you).
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    Hi

    Did you ever get this fixed?
    I have similar problems with my 2006 9-3 1.8T Vector convertible (petrol) I was driving along around 1 mile after setting out and the car just died, i had a SID message saying the traction control had failed i tried everything to get her restarted but nothing worked after 5 hours i sought help we tried to jump start but it didn't work as a last resort i disconnected and reconnected the battery and hey presto she started! The problem became predictable usually within a mile or so of starting out but always resolved by disconnecting and reconnecting the battery. Now she's sitting on the drive way and sometimes she starts and stalls and then doesn't restart and most of the time she doesn't start at all im stuck with a car that i cant drive

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    Re: 2004 Saab 9-3 Turbo - Variety of Problems and now I'm a Pedestrian

    had the car code tested and got P0601, had the ECU tested twice and its fine? any other ideas on what could be causing the above?

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    Re: 2004 Saab 9-3 Turbo - Variety of Problems and now I'm a Pedestrian

    who tested the ecu & how?

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    Re: 2004 Saab 9-3 Turbo - Variety of Problems and now I'm a Pedestrian

    had it tested by a indie saab specialist, and then again by an old employer that owns a electro-mechanic business, took we dont have a saab dealership here any more and the cars not running

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