: High Mileage Saabs - How many has yours done??
Paul D 01-17-2002, 04:09 PM Thought this might be interesting for the record...:
How many miles has your engine clocked?
Wrighar stated on another thread that, "I've seen carlssons with over 300,000 on original engines, and one aero at 2 years old for sale with 225,000 miles."
The following USA based website lists long-lived Saabs: http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/faq/miles.html
(NB: There are 850+ cars registered, hence the link apparently takes 2+ minutes to download with a 56k modem!!)
The current record is held by a 900T at 550,000 miles, with the highest registered 9000 being a 9000T at 463,300 miles!
So what is the highest milages seen or owned by users of this Bulletine Board then?
I had a '93 9000CDE 2lECO with 150k miles and no perceivable engine wear, except some cam chain rattle. Now have a '98 9000CSE with 101k miles and still runs like new.
9000CS23T 01-17-2002, 05:15 PM I have a 92 cs 2.3t with 192k miles and, apart from the head gasket, nothing wrong with it. Still drives like a dream, a alight problem with the auto box, looked like someone topped up with the wrong oil, but that seems to have been cured after two flushes.
Neil
blackcarlsson 01-17-2002, 05:29 PM I think I read there's a Saab in the US that's gone over a million. An old boy owns it and changes oil and filter every single month...
blackcarlsson 01-17-2002, 05:32 PM shite - forgot...
89 2.0 T - 183k
very faint rattle from the engine mounts when it's cold for about 10 seconds -
1989agoodvintage 01-17-2002, 06:02 PM ... but on the saabnet page there's also cars with 50K on the clock. :-)
Mine?
1989 Carlsson with 99878 showing, but clock was changed at 38500(ish) according to log book for an "unspecified" reason. Total mileage is approx 13.85K in that case
1989agoodvintage 01-17-2002, 06:02 PM ... but on the saabnet page there's also cars with 50K on the clock. :-)
Mine?
1989 Carlsson with 99878 showing, but clock was changed at 38500(ish) according to log book for an "unspecified" reason. Total mileage is approx 138.5K in that case
900016Turbo 01-17-2002, 06:02 PM 1989 9000 CD Turbo with almost 189,000 miles on the clock.
I'm the 2nd owner after it was owned by a company so they've looked after it as I have. Blows a little smoke when you floor it but most do don't they. Still goes good & puts a smile on my face when overtaking... Safely!! ;o)
aeropilot 01-18-2002, 01:59 AM 550,000.....just about run in then!
I see the highest registered UK car is (or was in Jul 99) a 1989 9000T with 290,000 miles. If it's still going it must have over 300K by now.
I'm afraid I can't play this game as my '96 Aero only has done 55K.......that'll take about 30 years for me to get to 300K..!!!!!
Stewart 01-18-2002, 03:27 AM My first 9000 auto,which was a 89' had when I sold it 208k,I put 8k on it in the three months I had it.
But I was still now where near some of the high figures on here,and my current has 131k,and I wont see high #'s cause' I'm selling it.
My Carlsson (for sale on Hagstrom saab site) has done 133K. It never vuses any oil and flies. Had clutch DI and G'box at about 110K. My Aero nearly run in now i.e done 75K
anglosaxon001 01-18-2002, 04:14 AM I can't really play this game properly, my 1987 900016v Turbo has 204k on the clock but the 'bottom end' was changed so that bit has only done around 100k. As far as I know the rest (including the turbo) is original.
MikeH 01-18-2002, 04:33 AM Oh you have all done my heart good,at 179k and 171k , my two are mere stripplings
highlander 01-18-2002, 06:44 AM Well mine is a '91 2.3t manual. Done 175k but had has had £4k spent on it in the last 2yrs before I bought it, yay for me! :-)
Seems to run well enough but not happy right now, seems a bit off on power & feels a touch rough...but that is another matter!
Looking at some of these...mine is barely out of the teenage years!! :-)
quarryeff 01-18-2002, 06:55 AM My 89 Carlsson which I sold 3 weeks ago :-{ had 160k but had never had serious work done. It was still on original head (even with 2 exhaust manifold studs u/s), original timing chain (it was getting rattly and really needed doing).
How much did the Carly fetch Quarryef
kprm77 01-18-2002, 07:12 AM I'd be interested to know how much the Carly went for too.
My 2.3T Carlsson has a touch under 160,000 miles. (£1600 spent in last 6 months, though luckily less than half that by me).
It had 158,888 when I bought it last August, so it'll be some time before I break the 200,000 barrier....
Kevin Mc
gassy 01-18-2002, 10:24 AM I bought my '91 SE 2.3turbo 3 years ago with 180,000 on the clock. It's now got 240,000+. )
Mind you, I had a recon gearbox at 200k, a replacement engine at 220k and a new turbo at 221k (
Se you can see why I'm inclined to hang on to it for a few years more. )
wrighar 01-18-2002, 12:17 PM Only listing recent ones run in (i.e over 100K)
Past:-
99T '80 2dr, 200K
99T '78 3dr, 178K
900T '87 3dr, 148K
Current:-
900T '85 3dr, 260K
900T '84 5dr, 150K
9000 Carlsson 2.3 '91, 144K
CS Aero, '94, 121K
cdcarlsson 01-18-2002, 01:18 PM '90 CD Carlsson, just getting out of short trousers - 132k.
Two exhaust manifold studs short of a set, as per Quarryeffs'.
Air Con gone AWOL, will repair when it gets' hotter (hope, hope).Just remembered so has the cruise control, hmm, must look into that...
Headlining dropping faster than interest rates. (Just had a quote for this, by the way, £140 plus Vodka and Tonic, from a local car retrimmer)
Spent quite a bit on 'preventative' maintenance (ie: I don't wait for it to fail on me) but love the car to bits..
Anthony B 01-18-2002, 01:33 PM My 93 2.3 CSE has got about 176,000.. had a new auto box at 135,000 and all the chains done shortly after (over £2500 for the last guy..ouch!) and runs like a dream. It's not used a drop of oil in the last 15,000 miles, but I'm curious what the oil pressure is so fitting a gauge this weekend.Change the oil and filter every 6000 miles thanks to a friend who gets it cheap.
zeppelin 01-19-2002, 05:19 PM my present 90/9000s has 175,000 no prob. exept d.i. cart. my last saab 9000 was sold at 200000 mls and ran for a good while.the probs.are not eng. or g/box,but silly things like brake pipes,clutch master cylinder etc which in a car you have bought for 300quid are not worth fixing unless you can source them cheaply and a lot of people cant/so when they go to dealer for new part and it costs more than they paid for car......well?
saabman 01-20-2002, 11:42 AM My 1999 on a "T" 9-5 has already done 137,000 miles with no problems not spent a penny apart from tyres and servicing plus an absolute fortune in fuel bills,But i'm so confident in the engine I'm going to go for a Hirsh chip,I'll let you know how I get on
bush baby 01-21-2002, 10:27 AM H reg 9000 Carlsson 175k
C reg 900S 192k (orig engine/turbo 2nd hand g'box @150k)
When is it advisable to change the timing chain - told not to worry until it starts to rattle (by Saab mechanic, his done 220k)?
Paul D 01-21-2002, 11:32 AM Saabman - Looking forward to your update on Hirsh Chip upgrade. 137k motorway miles on a '99 year car is the best sort of milage to have - so go for it matey!
Bush baby -
>>"When is it advisable to change the timing chain - told not to worry until it starts to rattle (by Saab mechanic, his done 220k)?"
Maybe it was changed by an earlier owner?
I agree and have been told the same - don't worry until it starts to make a noise. But at 220k I would recommend having the timing chain tensioner checked to see how much travel is left on the tensioner. Remember, on a previous thread someone mentioned that their chain jumped a cog as the tensioner was on the limit!
Well, guys, great to see so many miles on so many cars. 'Long live them all'!
DoorMatt246 01-22-2002, 07:09 PM See, us Americans just are just better at everthing ;-) My 9000T has 135k on it and runs great , but it was previously owned by and old lady schoolteacher who only drove it on Sundays and ...
900016Turbo 01-22-2002, 07:23 PM Mmmmmm .. Well don't let me stop you!!
alix66 01-22-2002, 11:19 PM Just sold my '87 9000S with 189,000mi. Original motor&trans never rebuilt. It never smoked and didn't use a drop of oil. Compression was still strong and even accross the board. HOORAY for SAABS.
ksowden1 01-23-2002, 09:37 AM If the chain jumps a cog,will it bend valves? I only ask because I've still got a 230K 2.3 on original timing chains up drive that stop working nearly a year ago. Just haven't got around to taking off the timing cover and having a look. No problems with car until one day ona trip from south to midlands it started making a grinding/slight knocking noise I pulled up at the first opportunity and the blasted thing wouldnt start again. Called AA he managed to get it to turnover but it was like someone was living in the engine and was hitting a hammer onto the top of the engine trying to get out!
9000CS23T 01-23-2002, 03:51 PM If the chain jumps it could bend valves, it depends how fast the engine is going at the time. If you are lucky you will have got away with it. Best thing to do is check the timing of the chain, if it is out replace chain and tensioner, guides if worn, time it up and then turn the engine over by hand. This should determine if valves are bent badly is there will probably be contact between pistons and valves, making it hard or impossible to turn over. If it turns over freely try starting it. This is a lot quicker and cheaper than just taking the head off to have a look.
Neil
ksowden1 01-24-2002, 12:49 PM It wouldnt be the balance shaft chains then. they dont normally just go like that. Before it packed up there was no real rattle from the chains. I was worried it was balance shaft chains which would be beyond my workings so was getting ready to possibly break up after I've had a look. WOuld I change the timign chain link by link by taking the timing cover off only?
the lower sprocket on the crank which the balance shaft chain runs on are prone to shearing the teeth on high milage 2.3 engines this makes an horendous noise as the sprocket slips inside the chain,but it won't stop the engine from running, just remove the cam cover and look down the timing cover with a torch you should see anything there which is causing your problem, valves could suffer as cs9000t says if under certain curcumstances if chain jumps, another thing to check is the cam shaft sprockets have the key way sheared on one of the sprockets, also
check crank angle sensor behind bottom crank pully,one thing that does happen is the woodruff key on the crankshaft pully fractures and shears,this allows the crank pully to move resulting in crank sensor not being timed up and not sending signals to ecu hence engine turns everything looks fine but it won't fire.
try these things first before you condem car
AYM.
KoStre 11-15-2002, 03:48 PM Thought I might fit in here
My 9000 CDi '89 has 310.000 Kms, still runs smooth
9000CS23T 11-15-2002, 04:23 PM Nice one, my CS has just done over 200480 miles now.
Neil
billj 11-15-2002, 04:51 PM Must have missed this thread first time round. Bought my first Saab, an '87 9000 2.0T, at 168K miles, sold at about 200K miles. As far as I know, original engine, turbo and gearbox, although the gearbox wouldn't stay in 5th after about 195K.
Bought my '96 Aero at 3 years old and 113K miles (about 36K miles/year?) and it now has over 170K. However, the turbo went at about 133K miles, then the original engine went bang at 135K miles. Going well now, but the 3rd gear synchro is a bit dodgy and I'll need a new gearbox in the not-too-distant future, especially if I insist on pushing 300hp through it at every available opportunity..
My two recent acquisitions are a 9000 CSE 2.0LPT auto bought at 100K miles (hardly run in) and a manual version of the same bought at 136K miles (again, practically delivery mileage).
SteveN 11-15-2002, 05:01 PM My 900i ('steady eddy' 8 valve) has a respectable 212,560 miles on the clock (local mechanic recons "good for half a million"). My 9000 has a barely run in 131,000 .
BTW, good thing about this board is the way people pick up threads you missed and bring them back
1989agoodvintage 11-16-2002, 04:19 AM My current 9000CD has covered 176K now and has recently had a gearbox rebuild and all chains, so hopefully it'll run like a clock for the next 124K miles.
saabman 11-16-2002, 07:23 AM Originally posted by saabman:
My 1999 on a "T" 9-5 has already done 137,000 miles with no problems not spent a penny apart from tyres and servicing plus an absolute fortune in fuel bills,But i'm so confident in the engine I'm going to go for a Hirsh chip,I'll let you know how I get on[/b]Well just to update,146,000 miles now and still no Hirsh chip or problems.
carlssonman 11-17-2002, 02:41 PM 1992 carlsson runs 13psi drinks no oil no water gearbox replaced at 140tho now 165thou and great!
paul anderson 11-21-2002, 07:36 AM My current '95 9000 ( 2.0 LPT ) has done 199k while my previous '92 9000 ( 2.0 ) did 195k before exiting treewise about a year ago. My boss sold his '93 9000 ( LPT, not sure of engine size ) at 250k about 2 years ago and I still see it occasionally at Cherryburn near Newcastle.
Paul@Kippen.
john_p 11-21-2002, 07:56 AM My 900i (1990) is over 191,000. From new it has had 1 clutch, 1 wheel bearing and a head gasket job. All other bits are original... (appart from the noises, I get a new noise every week...!)
wrighar 11-21-2002, 09:18 AM Well to update on the 100,000m'ers,
I'm currently sitting at:-
'93 CS Aero, 129,500m
'91 9000 Carlsson, 165,000m
'91 CDE, 148,000,
'86 900T, 260,000m (parked, clutch gone, steering rack leaks)
'85 900T, 150,000m
'90 900S, 118,000m
prev 100,000m'er cars
'80 99T, 200,000m
'78 99T, 191,000m
'83 99GL, 140,000m
'86 900T, 155,000m
Andrew
johnp 11-21-2002, 11:11 AM Oooh another John P, that'll puzzle folks...
Just to add mine 129,000, on a 2.0i 9000, and building at 20 to 25k a year... Just a baby really.
What I find interesting is nobody seems to have a car without an intergalactic milage on it. Do Saabs come out the factory with 70k on them?
Cheers
John P
markcanderson 11-21-2002, 11:26 AM What I find interesting is nobody seems to have a car without an intergalactic milage on it. Do Saabs come out the factory with 70k on them? *[/b]No, but most of us love them because they are great long distance cars.. so comfortable and quick.
I've put 73,000KMS ( nearly 46K Miles) on my MY01 9-3 from new in 18months.
My MY92 9000 2.3 CD T Griffin (what a mouthfull) has done 234000KMS (147K Miles) and feels as new as the 9-3...
Eric van Spelde 11-21-2002, 01:05 PM quote:
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What I find interesting is nobody seems to have a car without an intergalactic milage on it. Do Saabs come out the factory with 70k on them?
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Saabine first hit the roads on May 10th, 1985 and she still has to break the 100K miles. Don't ask...
pyronerd 11-21-2002, 02:16 PM What I find interesting is nobody seems to have a car without an intergalactic milage on it. Do Saabs come out the factory with 70k on them? *[/b]Surely not so! My 1999 9-3 was bought with 7 mi on it from the dealer, and I've only put 44K on it since -- just a baby compared! Only needed one real repair, that was alternator going bad at 21K....????? Yeah, I was surprised, too!
Anthony B 11-21-2002, 03:29 PM Being a natural worrier (or is that mechanically sympathetic) I've been getting concerned as my Aero has just cracked 100k. Seems like it is a mere fledgling in comparison to some of your guys cars. My last 2.3i auto had about 180 on the clock (new auto box at 135 and timing chains at same time..ouch) and the engine was as sweet as anything.
The only question for me is why do they last so long? I'm not sure what Saab do different to other manufacturers but surely there must be a reason for their mechanical longevity. We are talking loads more miles than most cars can ever muster so what is it???
Ant
sgould 11-21-2002, 06:18 PM Well my Rover 620 did 161,000 when I sold it to buy the Saab and the 2 litre Montego before that was sold with 135,000 miles.
Rover only needed a new radiator at 120k and the Montego needed a new exhaust manifold at 90k. Apart from that just servicing (except a drivers seat rebuild in each at 100k - I'm 17 stone http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif )
billj 11-21-2002, 10:15 PM Originally posted by Anthony B:
surely there must be a reason for their mechanical longevity.[/b]I know that the engine block on the 4-cylinder cars is made of very high quality material, with a high nickel content. If you were to take the cylinder head off your engine, chances are that you would find no signs of wear, and the cylinder hone-marks would probably still be quite visible.
At least on the 9000, automatic transmissions are a bit fragile, it seems (although some seem to go forever). The manuals are longer lived, especially those on 9000s (the later, the better), but gearboxes on unmodified C900s seem to be good for a couple of hundred K too.
The V6 engines do not have the same reputation.
Stewart 11-22-2002, 04:48 AM I guess I'm kinda lowish at 117k (9000 2.3 H reg)but my first 9000 2.0 had 196 that was an F reg.
The one we have now (well it's my mothers really but she never drives the bloody thing!!) http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
Paul D 11-22-2002, 05:06 AM Antony B,
I understand your worry about the 100k mile mark. Traditionnally (pre 1985 approx) most cars were well worn out around this mileage. Hence psycologically the 100k miles mark, was impressed in our youthful minds, when buying newer vehicles
The only question for me is why do they last so long? I'm not sure what Saab do different to other manufacturers but surely there must be a reason for their mechanical longevity. We are talking loads more miles than most cars can ever muster so what is it???[/b]A few thoughts..:
Whist older cars wore out at 100k ish, older Saabs still (generally speaking) did better. Maybe this was because they were made by an Aircraft manufacturer, to more stringent tolerances and better engineered materials, etc.
Whilst most newer vehicles (e.g. post 1990) are good for well over 100k miles, due to improved engineering methods and materials, Saabs (especially 9000's) still do better than most. Maybe this is because 9000's are not generally bought to do the school run, or other minimal milage.. which.. as we all know from the thread on oils.. require much more frequent oil changes and generally causes much more damage to an engine. Therefore, as 9000's are great motorway cruisers, they are often used by executives for business milage (at least early on), causing less engine wear, and clocking up milage much faster than other lesser vehicles.
My 9000T 1988 has just retired in favour of a 1994 900S turbo(71,000) mainly because i think that to get it through the MOT would cost more than the car is worth - shame really and i still take it for a quick buzz at night - a few rattles and some blue smoke when hot but feels nicer to drive than the 900 - 174,000 miles and i still think it is faster than the 900
9000turbo 11-25-2002, 04:40 AM I have a 1989 9000 turbo with 187000 miles and it drives perfect no engine rattles, smoke, or scary noises of any kind. look after them, they run forever.
http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/fawlty.gif
hsolakidis 11-27-2002, 04:32 AM My 1992 CS Carlsson has just turned 110k...Nothing compared to some of you guys! Before that I had a 1991 CDXS 2.0. The poor thing had 180k when I was done with it, but was still going strong (This car was used for the 2001 trip to Greece carrying 5 adults, 2 computers (+monitors!),an ikea desk,all our luggage ...and the dog! http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif 2500 miles and 2 and a half days later,everything was fine).
The Carly will be up for grabs soon, so watch the ads! http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/fawlty.gif
Harry
chrisp 05-18-2003, 09:00 PM hi..my 92 9000 cs 2.3 turbo s has done 211k miles so far.it burns no oil and as far as i know has still got the original auto box and motor with no major repairs.i do as much preventive servicing as possible,esp trans fluid/filter and motor oil/filter.last job done was a shot idler pulley.£28 from main dealer.
i hope to get 250k min from engine,but i'll keep you updated.
chrisp 05-18-2003, 09:04 PM i should also say that the first 160k miles was long haul motorway use and a full SAAB history.
BurnsSide42 05-18-2003, 09:59 PM 1987 Saab 9000T (3rd owner) over 268K. It's had the same saab mechanic since new...well it did Body is good, but as of Tuesday this week, it is getting it's new shock tower installed as seen/mentioned in previous posts.
My 92 9000S has over 280,000 miles and still gets the kids to school and my wife to work every day.
injectie 05-19-2003, 01:22 AM Well over 240k miles now. It has had a new distribution at 100k and that would be it. Still moving
aj-geddes 05-19-2003, 06:41 AM i've just done passed 142k on my 96 cde(lpt) and it doesn't seem 2 have blinked Should i be expecting the auto box to go bang soon http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif
Just as an fun one The local saab dealer looked a little suprised when a friend asked for a trade in on his H plate 9000 with 495800miles. he now has a shinny 9-5aero estate
Mark B 05-19-2003, 07:16 AM What was the part exchange offer?
d058876 05-19-2003, 10:30 AM My 1989 9000T has 189,000 miles. Yeah, WE Americans use lousy English and in general can't spell worth s**t.
zeppelin 05-19-2003, 11:31 AM well in about ten minutes my 95 2lt.lpt cse will be at 200000 exact......just got ten miles to go and the sad thing is i am going to take a photo/pathetic aint it.
1989agoodvintage 05-19-2003, 12:10 PM Well I've changed cars since I originally posted.
The current motor's at 181K and needs a balance shaft chain service, aside from that everything else is hunkey dorey .. touch wood.
wayne martin 05-19-2003, 12:23 PM My 9K 1995 CSE LPT has just gone straight through its MOT without any work at 150400 miles
Its just had the head gasket replaced (oil leak), but thats the biggest job yet.
Drove nearly six hours from Dundee to wolves with no aches or pains.
Got poly bushes on front wishbones and rear anti-roll bar, as recommended on Saabscene, made a world of difference http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/fawlty.gif
Wayne
BurnsSide42 05-19-2003, 05:30 PM well I am gettin the wheel well on my 9000T welded in starting Tuesday, then i will add all new brakes, cut the rotors, new muffler, new controler, and sway bar bushings for front, and all the vac lines are in progress. Installed new bougi cords, rotor and Plugs, still need a cap i guess, i installed a "newer" one then the one it had. Idle is still a lil rough, but she is coming a long really well for a car with over 268K I hope to get 500K outta her, even if it's a new engine drop in
nutcase 05-19-2003, 05:50 PM I don't think I'll win any max mileage prizes. My 1978 99T has done just over 79k miles. That's 3160 a year. But then, it hasn't moved more than a foot under its own power since 1989...
potto 05-19-2003, 06:01 PM Used to have a 5 year old 900i 4dr bought with 120K on the clock & soon ran to 150K in about 9 months. Never missed a beat.
I also had a 96 with well over 200K and it was a dog. But what can you expect for a car bought for not much more than the change in my pocket!! Ate gearboxes faster than some of the Aeros I've read of on these pages
Know of a 96V4 in Hampshire, 1 owner from new (31 years ago) and 369K miles. Not bad eh?
murphwiz 05-19-2003, 06:05 PM Today I saw a 1990 9000 Carlsson with a stunning 350k miles on the clock, and the car was in damn good condition!
bill.armstrong 05-19-2003, 07:32 PM Resent SAABs that I can remember, (had a 96 and 95 way back when and a 900 t in 1987 with about 100k I think)
900 8v carb 187k
9000 2.0t 225K (pulled the car apart with a tow bar!)
9000 2.0t 224k (awaiting breaking for spares clutch master/ slave dead body work needs welding and new heater matrix runs like a dream if a bit rattly when started offers anyone?)
Current 9000 2.3i 168k and running fine.
I do high mileage (35k a year or more!) So need a reliable car!
900 cost £50 (stolen recovered) and I did about 20K over 2 years inc. all around Europe last year!
Too thirsty for UK petrol prices (24 to 26 MPG)
Current 9000 2.3 cost £300 and I expect to get about 40 to 50K out of it, assuming number 1 son keeps it out of ditches while he's learning to drive!
Old 9000 2.0t gearboxes give out after about 100K (unable to change oil is the reason I think) Nearside front wheel bearings start to rumble after about 170K but are not much louder 20k later! Last 9000 2.0t had drive shafts fitted from old 9000 2.0t I had pulled apart at 160K and were still fine at 224K so I recon they had done about 267K with much http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/fawlty.gif http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/fawlty.gif round the lanes in West Staffordshire / Wales.
Not had any head or turbo problems (good oil and regular flush followed by Slick 50 works wonders)
Would buy better example but spend all money on fuel hence saving for LPG conversion
PS I have never towed a snail, Tow bar is for Bike trailer (Bultaco Trail bike not road legal
wherewolfe 05-19-2003, 10:52 PM My current 1994 Saab 9000 CDE only has 87,000 on it and is pristine. My 1989 900 Turbo had 176,000 miles when I sold it and only needed two front brake pads. It is still running with 233,000 miles on it without any major repairs according to the young lady I sold it to.
My very first Saab(99 I bought in 1970) is driven daily by a little old church lady on the west side of town. Still looks darn good(not the little old church lady) with over 250,000 miles.
---wherewolfe
markcanderson 05-20-2003, 04:31 AM My 1992 Saab 9000 is at 250,000KMS (156K Miles).. but has required some pretty serious work over the years...
I have most of it's service history and including upgrades and maintainance (excluding Petrol, Tax and Insurance) it has required -
UKP 10,073 .. from 1997. (includes new exhausts, new throttle body, full engine rebuild, full new suspension, ding repairs, new brakes, new tyres, new wheels, head gasket replaced, new gas flowed cylinder head, some engine upgrades, lots of servicing etc..)
It costs a lot to keep a car in A1 condition over time...
My 2001 9-3 has required only routine servicing. It's done 55K Miles now, had it from new.. 6 Services = 1300 pounds.. plus a new air mass meter under warranty. + roughly UKP 1700 on mods.
BurnsSide42 05-20-2003, 08:16 AM yep...so, saab engines can reach 300K huh, do you think that an engine with 268K is still strong enough to handle high boost levels of turbo power? right now i have only a red box in it, 185hp, and i think that's more then enough for it...but wasn't sure if it could habdle more. Opinions?
gassy 05-20-2003, 10:25 AM As a non technical guy (whose '91 9000 has a mere 268,000 on it) I'd reckon that whilst a well looked after engine could probably handle 300,000 miles quite easily, the things that are going to "surprise" you are the little things, like perished hoses and rusty clips. Which have the power to suddenly make your pristine 300k engine very old (and very noisy), very quickly.
Richard A 05-20-2003, 11:27 AM I heard that one of the north London dealers (Chigwell I think) had a customer's C900 on a display podium for a week earlier this year to tell people that it was in for it's 350,000 mile service.
gundam_007 05-20-2003, 11:04 PM I guess I can not play with these big boys as my 92 9000T only has 96,750n actual miles on it.
BurnsSide42 05-21-2003, 09:55 AM Originally posted by gundam_007:
I guess I can not play with these big boys as my 92 9000T only has 96,750n actual miles on it. * *[/b]na, u're just lucky...you're 9000 has many many many more miles ahead think of it that way
9000CSE 05-21-2003, 10:38 AM My 9000cse has done 142k and still has the original timing chain, clutch, DI unit and discs.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they all hold
out until I flog it in about 12 months time
Mind you, something will probably fail now I've
posted this.
TurboRush91 05-21-2003, 09:43 PM Previous Car:
1989 900 with 240,000mi, sold it, new owner still drives it around, I imagine its got to be nearing 260,000mi by now. Replaced orginal clutch and tranny at 200,000mi cause the tranny was making noise, clutch was still strong
Current:
1994 900SET with 170,000mi
1997 900SET with 95,000mi
Skodapilot 05-23-2003, 10:00 AM My '84 900 T16 Aero is still in Nappies.
had 118k on it when I bought it (with Service History upto 108), and I've just taken to 121.5k.
This weekend will see the second oil change I've given it since ownership.
Seems to use a bit of oil every few weeks, but seems to be leak rather than burning.
I can see where it is going, sitting on the sumpguard, but I can't see where it is coming from.
As long as I keep it topped up and serviced though, I can see this engine out living the gearbox, 1st and 2nd Synchros are badly worn and on occasion it pops out of gear (not regular to be a pain, just something I need to be aware of).
nigpem 05-25-2003, 10:16 AM oooh dear..1998 2.0lpt 9-5..just reached 26,000 miles...i really must get out more
Ric Costigan 05-26-2003, 02:14 AM Hope you don't mind if I join in, although I'm glad to read that not ALL of you drive really high mileage cars.
Bought my Carlsson in November 1996 at 88K and now it's just turned 139K, so for 7K per annum it ain't bad.
Bought the Aero last July at 99K and its now at 119K, 20K of mostly motorway stuff at which it's excellent.
We went to Glasgow in the Aero at easter - going up on Good Friday BAD MISTAKE but came back late on the Sunday night - a breeze 300miles in 3hrs 50mins the vast majority of the trip on cruise. Great motor!
mark e 05-26-2003, 02:42 AM Perhaps a more interesting comparison would be the product of the mileage and hp/torque? eg my 9000 has done 185k with an average of at least 260hp, so that would give about 48,000khpm...
James 05-29-2003, 01:14 PM My 1993 900 Convertible hit 20,000 miles yesterday. Sadly you have to add on the 38,375 that the original speedo did before it packed up http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
James
Bussman 06-07-2003, 07:32 AM Hi all ,
If I might say.. http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif If you look on Saabcentral web site there is a HIGH MILEAGE list with 500 pages
I think the highest is in the USA with 800k http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif
Makes my 900 turbo look silly at 106k (my1987)
cheers Paul
janehockley 06-08-2003, 12:05 PM My 1990 900 turbo convertible has clocked 181,500. From looking back over service history from new there appears to be no problems with engine, just a recon gearbox and clutch. Sounds and runs like new.
ben hall 06-09-2003, 08:33 AM My '94 Aero went through 137k miles at the weekend, and it runs just fine. New clutch and gearbox at 88k miles (courtesy of Saab, so the warranty was well worth it!). New DI cassette a month ago.
Previously I had a '92 CDXS which I sold with 133k miles on it, and it also still ran fine (just not enough wallop under my right foot!). It had the gearbox pinion bearing done at 103k miles.
MikeH 06-09-2003, 12:15 PM I have the engine stripped down on my 92 9000 2,3T,although there is wear on most of the timing/balance chain sprockets,there is hardly any perceptable wear in the bores,all valves and guides are good but stem seals very hard and brittle,some laquering but oil pick up clear except for a little silicon sealer! hardly any sludge.and this is an engine with a dubios service history,I would like to know how a well maintained engine would fare?
Edited as I had not said that the mileage is 184'000 +
tobyfield 06-10-2003, 09:13 AM Mine has done 164,000 Miles
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Toby Field
'93 9000 CSE 2.3T Auto
164,000 Miles
ylee coyote 06-10-2003, 09:25 AM aeromonster 181k
9-3 ss 17 k
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